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boddy & ridewood or the basket man - shepherds

doug mclary or j robbilard?

doug mclary or j robbilard?

doug mclary or j robbilard?

whereabouts do you let them go from Dunbar?

seems the same all round - will keep an eye out in east lothian half the tosses have been like that

what distance are the van rijns best at?

its a cracker, whats its performances?

mild weather i would think, i dont believe it would affect them racing up to 300 miles or so

well done, a nice looking hen with some good performances would be interesting to understand its breeding?

had problems myself yesterday, delivered birds at 8.10 pm, said the van had broken down and were trying to put off until today

1st round flying 45 mins or so unforced with old birds - now on darkness so will slow down - cant believe the amount of small feathers not having done it before

depends what distance you want them for - they wont all go 400 miles lots of good janssen based families around as mentioned above others on my list would be louella, tom sherwood, mr & mrs duggins, fountainhead, petron - and am sure stuart/raymond has some too- de klaks as above also depends on what you want to pay i have been to see derek reis at honeysuckle a few times,

if its te first 2/3 flights or none believe that is fine, it doesnt matter but there will be exceptions, once you get into 5 and onwards its too far for distance pigeons 500+ the moult gets bleamed but a lot of pigeons are sent not in good condition and not fit enough and dont return

i lived next door to the pub where the birds were marked and used to watch every week and club hq, we had some fancy ones and a few strays and then were given a couple of pairs of latebreds to start, i was 10 at the time, we kept these separate and then built a new loft and had mainly racers

peter crawford had done well with them too the talbotts - ii believe harry and jack who relate to david coward-talbot were bit wescott men in the 70/80s rose - dont know that level of detail but they go back in many directions

should have included r preston and a ainslie who have done well with the blood

there are still a number of people who flythem successfully in the suffolk area from distance races george colthorpe, Ken Chenery, Keith Seeley are not really pure, most are crossed into their own familes, derek reis honeysuckle has a few but not sure what they are based on names form the past who had done well with them wally grantham, j& R Brill(1970 NRCC kings cup winner with lady violet) , J Hollingsworth, A Keeble

i remember alot of the old guys i used to visit adding rock salt which they used to crush at certain times of the year - i believe when youngsters in the enst to stop them going to the river looking for salt?

agree - you will make a lot of mistakes whilst you learn about your birds and yourself and develop good judgement, it will cost you some good birds perhaps. you need to decide also what you want to compete at and plan for that - advice is helpful but can confuse you too, keep listening but make up your own mind- the change for me was focusing on quality and not quantity and reducing the amount of birds to race and sticking to a system

for me racing when on the North route from suffolk: long = lerwick only - 567 miles mid = 250-500 (thurso 488 miles oculd be won with good pigeons inc yearlings on the right day janssen or busschaert based - but these pigeons wouldnt necessarily score from lerwick, always exceptions though) short - 80-250 miles - some sprinters would score upto perth 356 miles) however, good club pigeons didnt and dont always make good national pigeons - most national pigeons had to come on their own a long way most lerwick and thurso races the birds would probably be out ovwer the north sea

not very often

supercracks - are they robert venus or soemthing different?

have just had a look on pipa - fantastic white grizzles!!!

what distance are they known for? regards Dave