adam owen

they will come 2morrow mate and you will be back on song then just keep at it and them when they come back

why does he lie mun sorry mate but still he had good race

7 mins past up garn club and my mate andy of kidd and cook took the lot in newport on the 4mins past good race from wat i saw of it fair play

up date 8.45 wnrf swindon

you had them on 28th jan so weather you put them on darkness hours your self wouldnt matter as they are on natrual darkness so they should may be cast one flight may be as u can fool some but not all of them i really wouldnt worry mate they be fine less to cast at end of year

i can see wat u saying but i wouldnt want to double up or single toss at that milege

nooooooooooooooo 12 miles is way plenty its the final stretch home thats wat you want the the last bit is to brake away and really race home stick with what you doing mate

i love it start in 3 or fours then work dwn to one or two by doing this you will build confidance into them and they will think for them selfs and it pays off in the end

our furthest race is 254 so it is a sprint really yes very true mate each to its own the best position ive gained with ybs is 8th nat lillers 254miles doing this

i dont use the dark for short races mainly for the nationals u can race them natrual for short races try it it with a few see for your self

i tryed that once and it done my head in they were out for days know i get them out everyday till flying so within a week this is done then they go out once twice at most for a flap but mainly a bath all i want them to do is moult and grow into old birds i dnt worry to much about the wait as u can change the feed a bit towards the end of the moult by adding barley buti dont over feed them tho as this can lead to problams

twice a week mate

i cant remember which one but one of the oneloft races does it like this i do 13hours for 6weeks

most people where i live do it for 6 weeks i parted 4 ybs last week and they are moulting already i had two ybs off demolition man last weekend they are moulting to last year i had ybs off owen on here on the 7th of may and by the 14th june they starting to tighten up by 21st when i finished it they were fully moulted through on my kids lives mate

all you need is 6 weeks on darkness so u av plenty of time i think its up to 10th may cut off date

thought they were they look like van reets good luck with them mate

are they van reets looking wel atb

u dont need alot of training if they exersizing like that 2 or 3 short tosses just to remind them wat the basket is and u be fine i think you feeding to heavy to early so they peaking in middle of week where as u need them peaking on a sat the best way to solve this is to feed barley sat sun mon and ull see the differance and your result will change

to gain form and condition you need warmth and sun light but with fresh air flowing with out drafts if it were me i would put your four vents at the bottom and put a 2 inch vent right at the top the full lenghth of shed and the same at back and also u need alot more light in there

the feeding is all wrong in my eyes they getting to much good grub this is why you got no controll over them did they do any good in race last sat ?????

i have it i cud copy it 4u

keep things simple mate

well said if it wernt for the silly little sprint races aqnd the silly little people who sends then u wouldnt have your so called longer races as u wouldnt have the £££££ to go there

im glad i put this thread up ive learnt alot from it cheers all