Just to put a different angle on this, the title of this thread says best birds not best fancier, now i would say look at a few things ie number of entrants by a loft and what % return from 600+ miles , also take note of age of birds how many times have these birds been to these races, ie i know of a fancier who has won these 600+ races at National level but more importantly is consistant year in year out birds of 9yrs old flying 700 miles birds flying Barcelona and a few weeks later flying from Marseille. The returns are probably higher than 75% in fact prob pushing 80 or 90%. There is probably a minimum of 15 orso birds in this loft that have been to Barcelona most yearlings would have been to Tarbes 550ish miles all 2 yr old and over will have been over 600miles most on more than 1 occassion not bad for a loft only about 18x6 in total no seperate yb loft So there are many different views on what we all believe