just wanted to fetch this to the top again!! was just thinking as not many of the fanciers ever contacted me to even say thanks for the birds i bred for them, well there was quite a few "new starters " etc, from staffordshire/ west midlands area from what i recall, never thought anything of it at the time, just thought they were ungrateful, but i wonder how many of them were COXY??? getting them for free and selling them on?? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ > suppose i will never know now, but it spoils it for the genuine ones, as i will think twice in future