if you had a dog out of control two things would happen ; 1/ expect the dog to be shot ; 2/expect to face fines for having a dog out of control killing livestock a farmer has the right to shoot a dog if it is worrying livestock and quite rightly so why can we not defend what is our livestock , the birds are in our control which hard earned money provides their up-keep and stock has to be purchased the bird of prey problem has gone beyond a joke now and having witnessed the peregrine decline of the 50s and 60s which must have been the hayday of pigeon fanciers things do need to be addressed England traditionally supported around 750 pairs of peregrines on cliffs in various areas , not on high rise buildings and church towers ,cooling towers etc sparrowhawks were confined to woodlands and pastures not everyones back gardens and city parks , the RSPB is a law to its own and now raptors rule everywhere I would like to see a cull and numbers brought down to a reasonable level