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Thats what is all about, putting up a good performance, if you want to compete at the longer distances there is allways going to be someone who is flying a lot shorter. But so what there will be a lot of times when the longer flyers will kick ar**, and when they do I love it.
Mick
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You can't beat the feeling you get when you get a bird from 500 mile plus on the day.What a lovely site that speck is out in the distance when you realise it is one of yours just home. GREAT lol
Mick
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Me, LETS BE SERIOUS THESE GUYS ARE GETTING THIS SECTION BECAUSE THE ENGLISH KNOW THE SCOTS ARE GOING TO WIN ABSOLUTELY F*** ALL AGAINST THEM, BEING IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL POSITION THEYRE IN.
the scotish members have allways been able to compete in the NFC if they were in the RPRA, and they were all in section L, but there were only a few, the reason that they have now been given their own Scotish section is because quite a number of the new Scotish club (which were convoyed by the NFC last year )have expressed a wish to fly with the NFC, simple as that. In section L as it stood they would have been flying, maybe up to 200 mile further, so they now have their own section.
Because of the large area which the NFC covers, the vast majority of prize money is payed out to the sections, not the open winners, simply because as you put it the back flyers don't stand a F***** chance, lol and i am one the back flyers at the mo
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Rose, you are exactly right, it's not about winning, its about competeing and putting up a good performance against the odds. You are either up for distance racing or not. I am a member of the BBC, Palamos to me 825 miles I don't ever expect to win, but I shall compete for the thrill of getting a bird at that distance, which I did the first time I sent, and I suspect there were a lot flying much less that didn't.
With regard to your comment re the channel isles, its not down to the NFC committee, there is a rule which says all members should fly a minimum distance of 480 miles from Pau. First you need a propersition on the ballot paper to reduce this distance, it has been on before, but the members voted against it, simple as that.
All the best Mick
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When you race with the NFC. realistically you are racing to win your section, and any good open position is a bonus. But that does not say it can't be done, most further flying members in the NFC are true distance men, and they can see a good performance, enen if the bird doea not win. At the end of the day there can only be one winner out of thousands entered, and many may not consider it to be the best preformanc. If thats the kind of racing you want, you pays your money and takes your chance.
Im nearly 200 mile from south coast, but I love distance racing, so you just have to get on with it. I am also a member of the BBC 150 miles plus short of the front drop, but who cares.
All the best looking forward to a good seasons racing.
Mick
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There are a larger percenage of late bred birds lost for one simple reason, THEY GET THROWN IN AT THE DEEP END, meaning they are not trained as well as the early bred young birds are. I have seen it happen time and time again, fanciers say they have late breds and intend to train them out of season and early on beforte racing begins, but it never happens, in the y go after two or three tosses. Followed by that old well known saying ..........they will follow the others home.
But very often it doesn't happen, late breds are no better or worse than early bred birds, they are just treated differently.
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The following information has been received from DEFRA to-day:
‘As of this morning (Friday 16th) the ban on bird gatherings in the non-restricted parts of England has been lifted
And gatherings permitted again under general licence. The ban will remain in place within the entirety of the Restricted
Zone as per the legal requirements’
Mrs. Mac for
Peter Bryant
General Manager
The Royal Pigeon Racing Association
The Reddings
near Cheltenham, Glos GL51 6RN
tel 01452 713529
DDI 01452 858240
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It may have been the weather that turned her back and made her return, but I think that if she has done it once she will do it again
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Blackjack, the midland Nat has members on both sides of the country east and west, so consideration has to be given to both sides re weather.
and as for Devon and Cornwall not being considered, I have heard it all before, and I live in south yorks and fly 200 mile further than members in Cornwall, Like I said earlier, pigeon racing will never be equal.
Lets just race our pigeons.
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At the end of the day if a bird will not come in to the loft he isn't hungry. Things can be learnt from repetition, but it sounds to me as though you are overfeeding.
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I am speaking here of the nationals and classics joining together, they are used to being liberated when sometimes the conditions are not what you might call perfect for everyone. Allthough I think it would make sense for the feds to do the same thing.
The problem with club flying, is that someone always thinks that this side or that side has an advantage, and when it's all said and done, pigeon racing will never be on a level playing field.
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The Midland Nat and the NFC have all these considerations to take into account every race.
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Some of you seem to be missing the point, I am not sugesting that another club be formed, only that we should try to share marking and transport cost.
Clubs mark as normal, and anyone wishing to do so can duplicate their birds, all up together which in theory would produce a true nationwide winner.
Isn't this what the continentals do ?
Mick
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As I am sure you are all aware, there are times this year when some of the national and classic clubs will be at the same race points at the same time.
Isn't it time we started to arrange races in a more cost effective way
Now back to the topic heading, amalgamation, perhaps due to the fact that the sport in general is suffering from a lack of participants, would it not be worth consideration, particularly between the larger national and classic clubs.
Most of the time the clubs are using the same race points, sometimes on the same dates, (as has been mentioned ), and all chasing the same birds.
I am sure that with a little cooperation it would be possible for organisations to go to the same race points on the same dates, there would be huge savings on marking and transport for all clubs.
Then members who are in more than one club, could simply duplicate into the other clubs with the same birds. I assume that this is somewhat similar to the way the continentals do it.
I am a member of the NFC the Midland Nat and the BBC and the Northern classic, so I could compete in all four clubs with the same birds.
This is purely a personal opinin, what do other forum members think ?
All the best
Mick
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its surprising how many did similar things, for me it was shooting fishing and rabbiting and game keeping.
Mick
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Without any doubt, the best way to remove a ring is to use a small pair of nail clippers. Get someone to hold the bird and clip the ring top and bottom at opposite sides of the ring, the plastic will crack, if you then clip the ring again top and bottom aprox quarter inch from one of the first cuts, you can remove the plastic and then simply cut the aluminium with a small pair of scissors, and then pull the ring open and remove.
It takes all of 2 mins.
Mick
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Doom and gloom, I just think we all should be a little more optomistic, things can't be worse than they were last year, If you read between the lines I think DEFRA have more or less accepted that they overreacted last year, and who can realy blame them. They hadn't got a clue about pigeon racing or what was going to happen re H5N1.
As to when do I think we will be allowed into France, I would think considerably earlier than we were last year.
Fingers crossed.
Mick
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Doom and gloom, We are not racing from Japan, nor from Hungary, if we have no outbreaks in an area which is a lot closer to our line of flight, I can see no reason why the ristrictions will be any worse than they were last year.
France opened up to us in June, DEFRA have been aware of the situation now for over twelve months, 9 last year it was thrown right in there laps and they hadn't got a clue ) it is my opinion, and thats all it is, we will be racing from France and beyond this year.
All the best
Mick
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No need to vaccinate stock birds, you only need to vaccinate birds which are being trained or raced or shown.
I do not vaccinate mine and haven't done for a good few years, and I know a lot who do the same.
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there is a lot of truth in most of the previous posts, only a fool will say that the wind does not play its part in the result. However, I am of the opinion that the biggest influence is played by the drag of the birds, wether it be club / fed racing, or national.
To give an example, when I first joined the Midland National back in 1988, the south west sec was sending twice as many birds as either of the other three sections, one evening when we were waiting for the clocks to be set, I was sat with a very good fancier who had just joined, namely Alwyn Paddey, Im sure a lot of you will have heard of him. We were discussing the following days race and he said, we should do ok tomorrow its going to be a very strong west wind. I said, I don't think so it doesn't matter where the wind is, it will be won in the south west sec.
I could see by his expression he didn't agree, but what happened the following day, in a nearly gale force west wind, you guessed it all the early birds were in the west.
This situation has been reversed in the last few years and the north easterly sections are sending the most, and what has happened?
All the best
Mick
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Pedigrees have there place, provided that the person who write's them is truthfull.
It will show how the parents have performed in previous generations, however it has allready been said THERE ARE NO GUARENTEES but you have a better percentage of chances of breeding something worth having if the parents / grand parents etc have proved themselves.
Look how many race horses are bred which turn out to be no good, but they don't try to breed them from cart horses.
All the best
Mick
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I think drug testing is a waste of time, the fed which I am in has been doing it for 2 seasons now and nobody tested positive yet. It is done by taking a sample of the droppings, after the birds have been put into a clean basket.
At the end of the day you can give a pigeon what you like, it still has to fly in the right direction and get home.
I think it is just an excuse to think someone is cheating in this way, when realy they are probably just good fanciers with good birds.
Just my opinion.
All the best
Mick
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It also depends on what type of nest boxes you have. If you have the standard widowhood type it is a good idea to fasten the hen in one side and the cock in the other for a couple of days, this usually does the trick.
My boxes are about 24inch square, and I can have the nest box front fixed either at the front or half way back, so I just have a few spare fronts and fasten the hen in the back and the cock in the front.
When they have been like that for a couple of days I let them together, if they are ok, thats how they stay, it not seperate again.
Usually 2/3 days is enough.
All the best
Mick
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There's an old saying ( BUYER BEWARE ) I have seen pigeons being offered for sale in the weekly's, and to honest you couldn't have given them to me.
It is up the the purchaser to make himself aware of what he is buying, his / her money so do as you wish. Personnaly I would never buy a pigeon on local club performances, but thats me, each to their own.
All the best Mick
New NFC Section for Scotland
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Frank, to many politicians in the pigeon game. Just ignore them and send your birds where and with who you like, They are yours after all. And if you belong to the SHU, the same apply's.
Lets just race.
Mick