lightning fast

I find it quite amazing how many fancers dont have anything in there med cubbord,Every top fancer I have been to has somthing there that includes 2 up north combine winners and fed winners over scotland and england that I have been to, they all have some stuff. I suppose there wasting there time with it. ;D ;D ;D PS , I dont have anything myself, at the moment ;)

Wish we all could get away with that at our work, hope they change there distributor it a bad start for my :'( :'( :'( blackpool weekend

during raceing do you test daily /weekly/or when you think there is a problem

As other guys have said cold or on the big side, if its an old hen be carefull an egg itint stuck have seen this once or twice if it is use a little olive oil around the vent and it should pop out

the more sun light the better face the loft south u will get this all day long with plenty of son u get form condition dryer loft eg no damp ect and plus the birds will rest all day long then I agree I have had a loft with not much sun on it and struggled and as soon I changed it to a position where sun was on most of the day, Runner up in young Bird Fed Averages ??)

sound better than B12 ;D

I send test kits away during racing if I need to treat, canker Flagel, upper respiratory , Orni cure, lower, lictro spectrum, Yeast y40 or cider vinegar, usually I use cider vinegar when they come back from a race and very rarely have to medicate, I never have to treat for coxi, and never had a kit saying there was , e-coil or salmonella, worms, moxidecten :X

just been to a top flyer whose birds are on chicken pellets and the feather was ace, he won his young bird averages with young ones brought up on these last year.

I have tried a few grizzles over the years never had a good one and dont know anybody local who has, but there is always a lot of winners advertized. :-/

cheers Ian that sound right , I thought they were talking about respatory problems :-/

I have recently viewed a dvd from the contenent and they talked about the Stagers, whats this ! :-/

I have to agree with alan An honest & trustworthy vendor,small loft with big results or you could go to a local top flyer and buy birds from them , thats what I would do if I had to start again, A lot of my spirnt birds are all front and nothing at the back and good feathering, and a good few fed winners among them but I dont have the skill to tell a good one or bad by handling them

Dont know Owen, he justv mention it also I head jock reid would give them little bits of cooked square sausage. When told I laughed but he swore this was tru. ;D

The Guy who told me has won fed and combine averages, and 2nd national, he said he gave them mince for the fat and protein ???

I suppose giving sedochol would help the liver

cheers tony very interesting, do u use this yourself?

Does anybody out there give there bird cheese or cooked mince before a big race, I have heard a few old boys say this, dont know if they are winding me up?

Cheers , got it.

does anybody know the offical web site of Beyers ? I cant seem to find one. :-/

one or two before a race mabe more at longer distance But have heard storeys of guy who were big peanut feeders and after a year or two there perfomances fell be the way

human quality from holland and barrett

any more vue`s

Yea the feathering is always good but I have been to a fancer and the feathering was awsome and he uses sunflower oil at £2.00 a bottle??? But I know what you mean on if it works for me why change it. thanks....

I got some good feedback on SEDOCHOL and would like peoples feedback on Gemthapax the reson I am aksing these questions is I use these pro :-ducts and need feedback on them, do these help that much! I have to pay the expense for these but do i ?????????? :-/

does anybody use Sedachol and do you think it makes any differance to the birds?