OLDYELLOW

nice show racer

i think you'l be stuck with amtrak then i believe Am deliverys only cover England

http://www.amdeliveries.com/index.html?_ret_=return try them if not then Amtrak

depends on what area your getting them from because not all areas are covered by some of the newer carriers

are right the short faced ones , couldnt make out from small picture and other one was too big had a shock could only see an eye on back ground when i enlarged it ( then scrolled but not a very defined background for the colour )

is that an old dutch owl in the photo ?

i only take one round of youngbirds if for any reason i end up with any been single reared as i bred early i will take a further round from the single reared pairs , i have moved house a year ago so 1st year at new location flying ybs , as i fly distance pigeons the ofspring can take up to 3 years to determine if the pairing is right , but i repair all stock birds up differently each year ,at end of the yb season i make a list of what survived and the parents that have failed to produce any ybs that are in the loft are marked with a marker ring and if same results year after they are promptly removed , i have talked to a well known stocksman and local breeder he says you need to take 3 rounds off a pair to determine there true value , but due to space im happy to do via my method , i am going to breed later next season for my round as i prefer younger young birds to earlier bred ybs so the less chance of any single reared young birds. As for results i aim to put a good perfomance at the longest yb race, but alas not long enough to prove my birds , the midlands national race this time round is the same week as my longest young bird race , so i wont be sending this year and as at new address this season i need as many young birds to finish the race programme to race as yearlings next season , as yearlings id expect them to win up to 400 miles with the odd one or two to go to 512 miles but id only send to the last race if chasing the channel adverages which i have won on a few occasions

I usualy buy odd bird from our fed sales or breeder buyers from clubs in town for a bit of fun and intrest , i buy stock pigeons in mainly hens have bought quite a few in , in last 2 years some been tried this year and some fresh for next year , im at nice levels in my stock loft with a view to reduce after there perfomace is determined , most of my stock are bred from winners or lines of winners or winners in there own right.

well i agree with most reasons for the huge losses , new methods birds been better feathered due to darkness or the light systems , and the search for the fastest pigeons high velocitys only happen when the birds have got the wind up there *expletive removed* , when such pigeons have a no wind or head wind conditions to contend with and suffer bad losses its these super fast wind machines that suffer the most due to the nature of breeding for pure high speed , if the focus was the same as it were 50 year ago and wanting to breed a family of birds to compete at all levels up to the longest races 500+ miles we would have both fast and reliable pigeons that fly in any conditions. But we all know with a modern lifestyle it's the sprinters that are getting the huge sale prices and win over a short distance , as we fly more shorter races than long ones and the price gets higher the further miles you go this also discourages distance races where money is short .What should be happening is a one bird price across the board from shortest race to longest race then the glory would suit the working mans pocket.

or they kill bird to get the rings

i got same response last time Grayham on both sites

south banks at middlesbrough

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimgifford/collections/72157603785899371/ plenty of breeds to look at on this site

Duplicate thread already discussing the very same thing here

some good advise there , the further down the road you take them the less there are likely to fly for fun , but rember that birds that take longer to home on short tosses see more of the terrain there likely to cross to get home , as you increase the distance they will gradualy get quicker and find there line of flight , good luck enjoy your birds

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh its quality have handled them all , about 6 different eyes in whole loft

lovely story heather , well done you

well said tony c

defo the isolation rule its going to cripple national flyers

there only a grand a piece and fantastic birds , however can get grand children for £50 each Dave Page bred five of last years U.N.C winners top bloke top loft , not many better birds anywhere else

it probably was some daft git like me

theres a sale on down town they son perk up then , wont change her mind but can get a loft up while shes out lol

well done rose , if there informed at leat they can say well you can pay £32 for amtrak or a £32 donation to the sancturary where there kept

theres a lovely thing called a transporter i put any stray south in a box give it to the driver he releases at liberation site the bird gets home , i go 86 miles north from me to Sunderland once a fortnight i drop N.E.H.U strays up along where they live any above Sunderland get a toss at Sunderland , how much do i charge to get these birds back to there owners ???? nothing a thankless job of feeding some for nearly 2 weeks but if this helps the sport then ill continue , its a shame most of the fanciers put them back straight in to next race rather than get them resetled and re trained , the last basket i let go at Sunderland they all dint even know how to leave the training create , that speaks volumes to me , there first experience of a basket proobably was there first race

Forgot to add R.S.P.C.A hardly ever reports pigeons