yes this year is going to be the first time in 11 years im not going to treat for this and that before pairing up,,i useally treat for most things prair to racing,,worms canker mainly..but what if there cocci levels up abit,,so going to send there droppings of before i pair and before i race next year,,trail and error..jmo thou,,,was at doncaster yesterday on medpets store,,orderd a few bits and bobs,,said to this bloke who served me isnt kev winter a agent for you,,,he said yes,,,i am kev winter,,talk about feeling small,,lol,, :B :B :B :B :B :Bive delt with im this year a few times and hes sorted me out,,,didnt try and sell me oat either,,,very nice genuine guy he is,,would recomend im to anyone ,,he said he deals with alot of the unc lads,,last time i rang im we chattedfor a full hour,,,theres not many vets i no that will do that...all the best lads with what ever you decide to do anyway,,,,,mark.. :) :)