any news on the birds m8 terry might be right i had it about 2 years ago lost 40 + birds every time i opened the loft there would be another pigeon dead on the floor with like a big wet patch around it sent swabs to vet found out streptacocci i had ybs in nest checked them out ready for weaning next day looked perfect went in next day dead in box the said caused by either rats mice running through lofts dropping s**t every where then pigeon eats the S**t gos to the drinker and passes it to the rest of flock he cured it withen 24 hours cost me £60.00 for medicene vet said more like rats than mice probaly hope everything works out m8
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