Roland

Seems reasonable and sensible.

Came in tonight, missis say that a sparrow hawk had eaten a pigeon on top of the shed next to loft. That she satyed in and didn't want to watch etc. - understandably. My birds were in, so was A. a Stray, a late comer or a dobve. No legs etc left just feathers... Dove most likely. Shame really as I woulod have put a nice sauce on it, like anti freeze for it to come back to. But yet again just why doesn't the fancy collectively use Pour On invetamin! Does us, the pigeons and the raptures the world of good! Indeed could have then offered my heart felt condonacies and a little prayer for the poor Hawk. normal invetamin does do the job, has to be the pour on type for percy's delight!

Seems about what I'd had thought personally. But what if he is say a Frank Bristow, A Geof Kirkland or Frank Tasker etc. etc. ... Not undermining these great flyers or decrying them in any way shape or form, but they fit the scenario of what I am implying. For they are good flyers and well known flyers - Indeed I suppose also becuase I know both the Franks and can personaly attest to their' genuinebility. But is it isolant, rude to ask such as these for them place credit in any thing that hey may claim! Or would a it bit wrong.? Further, what about when many other posters pop up ... which ALWAYS happens to defend their' reputations and decry one as being a 'Loser' or 'Jealous' and not fit to lick their boots etc. etc. That one should know better and just who the heck are YOU to ask such of a such! Indeed does the same principle apply to well attested flyers same as any other? Indeed is it wrong to ask them to substatiate ant claims they make!!!?

WWF has had to change it's name... has Billions, spent nowt. Save the Tiger fund likewise it would appear. Tusami hasn't spent, but is wait incase there is another. Golly couldn't even quickly mamager to set the Water cleansing up. would have been only a short spat of time.....

I am wondering pjc. I personally was of the opinnion that if you had something to shout about, 'Scream it from the House tops'. - When nowt good. shut up lol. Further was wondering, perplex even why thay won't, can't answer a simple basic enquiery. But it does seem that they can 'Shout' about nothing, and get credit for ....... Nothing!

I know many 'Seller's' refrain from racing due to the fact that they may not / can't or couldn't repeat their' performances that made their name. Indeed as **** ****** says' I moved west and wouldn't have done any good and YOU can't sell if not sucessful'. So I packed up flying. Fair comment wouldn't one think?

So why do certain 'Sellers' not answer straight simple basic questions... especially if they claim tremedous results their birds. I would have thought that spouting who did what and what not was really in their own interests!

Mr Winkle done very well with the Spirits and Smagd 1 and 2. Just crossed doubled grandchildrens and Robert was his mother's Brother!

yeah, or Strong Rig, same stuff. But you know we should all really be buying Invetmin POUR ON. For the Club, fed whatever, but we would be doing our birds good, and helping ourselves with regards other problems.....

A first class gent, a wealth of free knowledge, always willing to listen and advice, and argueably the best birds in Europe, with the likes of Ron Williamson. Take a peekers, and then remember and take into account his loft position. That says it all. Some write ups of him..... http://www.nrcc.co.uk/Racing/RaceReports/Lerwick/tabid/73/language/en-GB/Default.aspx http://www.nrcc.co.uk/Racing/RaceReports/Thurso/tabid/72/language/en-GB/Default.aspx http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=frankbristow+pigeon&meta=

Nah... couldn't afforded to go then lol ;D ;D Just joshing.

Have sent you a PM.

How very true. Money first last and any left once again I fear.

Distance Birds eh! Kipps obviously take all the beating. Beautiful coloured and looking birds. Bacelona Master, Bacelona King, etc. etc. 17 timed in within a couple of minutes (Or was that all 17 within 20 minutes and so many inside 2 minutes!).

I'd buy Louella if I was of mind and nary a worry. Has bred and sold International winner, both here and abroad! Not many around in my Fed doing that! JMO

Yes, and look at all the Greyhounds etc. etc. But they have Good P.R. Firms.

Very true and apt... in as much as we need, and I forever keeping banging the drum, we need more than ever a P.R. firm. We see the prove of te pudding in so very many walks of life every day.

If the 'Chief Constable' says I can no longer park outside my own house, is it right that I may question it? Of Lambast Come again Cameron, or Q. C. says that it is in my interests to always wear an overcoat or Rain Mac, can I ask Why? Remember that there is only one answer to Why.

Think you would be better to send a private email there mate. Regards Roland

Sorry, I must be a politician lol. I am actually asking 'Is it right for any buyer, or interested party, to ask for simple basic facts? Or is this regarded as a bloody cheek! Especially if the claims are unsustanciated or seem far fetched... especially if made by a so - call name or celeb?

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Barley is a great Blood purifier. So that, I feel, has to be good all the year round. Tic Beans, and Maples Peas are getting scarcer by the minute, mores the pity. So I like a little Linseed each day before the main feed, and then young bird mix does very well, but again that will become scarer as it has Maples and Tic Beans in it..... Mayorder 10 bags now to be safe, Linseed has a good protein content, a great natual laxative, and above all naturauk Oil, that that as far as I'm concern must bve good for the moult,m feathers and again a little regularly all year round feed. Wheat and Barley mix is grea, and was used regularly in not too long ago times. May have to with hold a days feed once a week. Reason that Barley etc. may make the birds fat if over done is that they over eat to compensate for the properties missing, so again a lot more waste too - cleaning out. JMO.

I’d love for posters to air their views, either agreeing or disagreeing, for to me, and as far as I am concerned, and aware, this is an helpful aspect of this and any forum. Controversial? ! Maybe, but surely that may well be what the question is or implied! Further – I feel, that it may be just that, how it is implied, and is it insulting to indeed ask? I often see fanciers asking for a little more detail on here, and of course other sites too. Is this being discourteous, or improper, even rude? Indeed does one feel that this is in order and an opt and proper thing to do? Are we entitled to know just how good, or honest a fancier is that is selling their bird(s)? Indeed, is even it relevant? After all no one makes any one part wit hard to earn cash do they? Especially in the coming months / years I fear. Are references needed, or a waste of time. Or does one expect anyone with a good, let alone great history regarding their birds performances NOT to spout out about their’ achievements?

Please don’t let me sway views, just perhaps some contents. Indeed, I’ve voiced my opinion oft on this very matter. It isn’t the ‘Success', or the 'Renown name’ of the poster that counts, but the context that is written. Golly I've see very often-great flyers go hammer and tongs at each other. Yet I feel that the ‘Name’ gives an unfair and slanted view, which almost become automatically accepted as gospel, Indeed far too often, and the 'masses' rallying around to defend the 'Name' Floor boards creak, and wood work crumbles often if some one even dares ask for a totem of truth, honesty, let alone a factual fact! And we all know that is correct, let alone right. Even good posters become 'Wanna be's to hang on their shirt tails. Golly one should just remember some of the disgraceful acts some have done, some of their dishonest, and despicable dealing that a ‘Name’ has got away with. BECAUSE they are a ‘Name’! Further, personally, feel very much in the Freedom of speech, the right to voice it… but not the right to slander, ridicule or belittle, this via a ‘Name, a normal poster, or a None de plume. The end product is invariably the same. That is that some honest person feels that they can no longer post, visit, or feel comfortable with a given site. This has to be bad, no only for the site, but also for the ‘Fancy’ in general. As for banning anyone, one must remember in actual fact it IS the Computer that is in effect banned. But sooner than later the poster gets fed up of having to use another computer and just fades.

Please don’t let me sway views, just perhaps some contents. –I wouldn’t try to be involved in this topic because I mainly know nothing of it! I whole-heartedly agree with the post of Johno’s. Indeed, I’ve voiced my opinion oft on this very matter. It isn’t the ‘Success, or renown’s name’ of the poster that counts, but the context that is written. Golly seen very often-great flyers go hammer and tongs at each other. I feel that the ‘Name’ gives an unfair and slanted view, which almost become automatically accepted as gospel… and we all know that is correct, let alone right. Golly just remember some of the disgraceful act some have done, and some of their dishonest, and despicable dealing that a ‘Name’ has got away with. BECAUSE they are a ‘Name’! Further, personally, feel very much the Freedom of speech, the right to voice it… but not the right to slander, ridicule or belittle, this via a ‘Name, a normal poster, or a No de plume. The end product is invariably the same. That is that some honest person feels that they can no longer post, visit, or feel comfortable with a given site. This has to be bad, no only for the site, but also for the ‘Fancy’ in general. And as a post says above, the Computer is in effect what is banned. But sooner than later the poster gets fed up of having to use another computer and just fades. I will start another topic with this post so that it doesn’t interfere with this topic. I’ll call it ‘As I see it’ I suppose lol.