Roland

Now, one moment IB is saying that it can't afect Falcon etc. and can Pigeons, then it can harm dogs etc. All different species having different result. Now two points are clear... Pour on IS Different from the norm, and Vets would much rather you use their (Pricy) methods etc. and NO Falconer etc. will ever admit that it can affect them. It has to be pour on, simple and straight.Area's are having sucess with it, and never heard yet any detrimental effects on pigeons. Now the main thing is, if it just does the worming etc. etc. and MAY, just may, have a beneficial affect on other species to our liking, then it makes common sence to use it. If hawks love, so beit it, if they don't so what! We will still be getting some worthwhile results. Every pigeon should have some. And further Falcons don't get over Cankers.... Pity the ferals don't suffer from canker and get caught eh!

Welcome MikeV, glad you could pop in.

Still advocate that every member of any pigeon club should use it.... Can't do any harm in doing so, and may well just have a bonus regards Raptures. Of course it is the former reeasons for using it...

Great Wriet up PATTY BHOY, I enjoyed reading that.

Stricneen was very dangerous, smoke a ciggerette even... but is still as lethal to day as it has always been. Never believe the Falconers and the RSPB with the naturual interests to guard. Of course they state that.... hard able to state otherwise... well not the wise bit at any rate lol

Yes the Falconer do use it ... which they very quickly made sure was promoted as such, and for very obvious reason one might well believe. BUT that is not the same as 'Pour On' which has a very good on both pigeons and for their owners of course.

Aye, didnae wanna dem ta fuund mae hoose like. ;D ;D

Best is confirm with Bilco, but you will find - I believe - that it is best to have / use Pour On Ivermectin. Like I advocate, regardless whether one believes the part of the Rapture deterrent, it certainly does the same job, if not better all clubs /feds even, should buy between them and use it.

Yet Gary Edmunds said the most important thing was Vapona. I really liked hanging it up too

Peanut butter is cool ... but the smell attracts too. I use mars bars in traps, and bread with antifreeze. It is sweet tasting...

Well I believe that the above has good merits, no two ways about that. Only floar as I see is when Joe 'Stirrer' wants to join and spreaad the crapo! But the lesser of two evils surely must be the better, ANYONE within the radious can join. Cheaper costs etc. etc. and every club nigh needs all the help and members they can get. The beauty is, that NO club can refuse to send any RPRA registered bird to any race, be it to race or as a Trainer. Now that would, and does get up ther noses when they won't have you in the club. Yes they have to set and do the clocks for you too.

Had a bad night mare last night, crikey, hordes of marauding Scots of all ages and sexes with the kilts blowing in a wet windy day descending upon Downing street... they came out of the forests right past my hoose on their way. every eatable animal terrified running for the lifes lol ;D ;Dl

True, and I've never been against ET's. But does just go to show how folks view things. If against their' views, sack the lot, comittee are fossiles etc., and all moans and whinges take place. But do exactly the same, which they like, then Dam everyone else, great committee, should have done it a long time ago etc. Which brings me back to my first big harp. Doesn't matter is we keep this lot or not, if we select and vote in a completely different lot, or even form a new body that takes over the riens from the RPRA, all will be fruitle, and quickly the same till members get of their arses and moan, whinge at meetings, then vote at every level!

Thanks Gangster, but there is a shipment already going in January with room for these too, so he wishes to take advantage of course of that.

Hi Ally Mac...I enclose part of his email.... While at the Kentucky Show I saw a small display of Horseman Pouters from Scotland. They looked exactly like the type of fancier bird I could settle on. I could not only show them in the winter, but work them with my homers in the spring, summer and fall. Since than I have done quite a bit of research on the breed. Apparently they are very new to North America and only 5 pair have been imported starting about five years ago. From what I understand, the English or the best inthe world at breeding them for show. All their youngsters that don't meet the show standard go to Scotland to be flown in the competitions. It did not take me long to realize that the only way to get involved with this breed in Canada is to find a good source in England or Scotland and get some birds shipped to North America. As it turns out, I have a contact that is being in a shipment of homers from England early in January and he is willing to add to the shipment. My problem is that I have not had time to track down any contacts in England. Is there a National fancy pigeon organization that I could contact to locate some Horseman breeders? I hope this puts things in prospective Ally Mac.

SuperStar, where did I ever do the things You imply?!!! Never but yet you harp on... But that be as it may, just answer me this. You are all for getting rid of this committee etc. One reason being that they don't take notices of us, and do just as they will, willy - nilly. Yet it is fine for them to go against the majority as you state Knowing that it would get through via a vote of the members, that most were against it, and applaud them for doing it via the back door in a very underhanded way, if not illegal and on a trumped up no existence rule. Seems to me that you like most, want the cake and eat it. Sure it is great when they behave with atrocity if it suits you. Never mind the twaddle about moving with the times, or for the betterment of the sport etc. It was a dirty move, yet that's ok eh!

Hi all, Recently I saw a thread regards Horsemen Pouters ... some lofts were in Scotland as well as England etc. I have a mate - funny that he is a nice fellow and we get on well... so he must be understanding lol - Any way he wishes to ship a few back home to Canada. What I need / he needs is a few leads, etc. in this regards. He wishes to ship then to Canada in Jauary. Any help in this regards would be appreciated. Post here or P.M. Or can give his Email addie Thanks in advance Roland

Worrying thought that... thousands marching upon London in the middle of a wet windy Winter lol ;D ;D ;D

What are you trying to say there roland? Are you trying to make out you and your ideas are of a superior nature to anything I have to say? No most definately not... and please have respect and learn that Names have a capital letter to start them with... too long to go into that but Roland is not roland...

That is exactly what is done now, and has been done for yonks.... where you been? And keeping slating on about the ET'S like I tried, and tried, yes even put in words that a 5 year old upwards could understand... but like I stated then, YOU never got it! Still can't understand, and further still you don't know the gist, or where I stood on ET'S. Never once have I said I was against them etc. etc. But then some falls on stony ground. Mind I'm glad there are some like you that have this thing about me. Just shows that though you don't particularly like me - from you posts at any rate - you certainly sit up and listen when I speak ... shame you can't understand the simple basics I spell out though.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t6qoQ7UvEBk&feature=related It's worrying lol ;D

Why? Doesn't that mean even more slanted and more selfish motives for the 'Click / ole boys brigade'? Isn't jus the fact that most sucessful managers etc. usually are not from the sport, and very seldom ones that excelled from they past time / hobby sport etc. Yes exceptions to the rules sometimes...

Thanks Chairman. as for More waffle. WHERE'S YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE IDEAS TO IMPROVE THINGS ROLAND?????? Your quick to rib others so whats your idea's on improvement? Just where have you been to ask such a stupid question. Are you too busy to read and not understan, or just wanting to slide over and pick up on a little tittle atatle piece to try and make a point!!! :B :B :-/ :-/ All fit eh! Must be over a dozen pointers and what I'd like to see, not just wth the RPRA or any other governing concern elected, but how it should also be incorporate d with Nationals etc. etc. No not to run them, but to work in conjunction with them and ALL seperately. This not only augers for better and more informed racing, but merits and above all less costs etc. Further to obtain cheaper and ontrolled Feed Prices. They have the Cartel, written or otherwise, like the Gas Electric boards etc. etc. But as a BIG concern with many member the clout has to be with the buyer... I.e. members. I could list stacks, most would be repeating, and therefore obviously would go straight by you again I guess :-/ :B

Well I thought that the club funds came out of the members pockets. and the usual eh! We had a meeting, like most years when funds were tight, and if didn't improve the club would have to fold... Nowt happened so an extroadary meeting was called and motions put into place. So if the new measures were put into place, with things like All birds trained for 25p. thgen just petrol costs took out, the rest went into the coffers for example - which happened, with one or two other things done. What was the main thing that kept popping up, and even put forward for the AGM... You've guessed it 'With this extra money we should pay bigger prize money, and Averages etc. Not a nary about the free time and effert and cost the likes of Russel did transporting the birds for training. Nothing about the fact the transport guy let payments be halved. Not a jot that the Secretary put his wages back into the club, and what I'd done etc. etc JUST to make ends meet. No We have paid more, we want it all back with interest! This season the Training is being thrown out the window! Why? Well not only because he never even got a thank you, but moans about ythis that and the other. The guy that gave up his time clocking in to take the birds, like me sometimes, are no longer interested in giving up our enjoyment for thankless selfish geezers etc. etc. Never mind more back, if any extra, saved it shouold be put into the bank for rainy days and more expenses to come next season. Did raise enough to buy two second hand transporters... said I believe that we ought to do another fund - raiser or two, to consolidate the bank account. Voted out as not needed... two seasons later..... Need I go on!

Louis was, like Mr Allen, wealthy. And we will still need a ship to float, and steer on A course. Any course is surely better that 1000's either running around like headless chickens in the wilderness, whilst 1000's more just pack up. But Asha you of course have the remedy for this I take it, as otherwise you would have posted! Which are?