Roland

Oh yes, still easily got http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK338&q=calcium+carbide+suppliers&meta=lr%3D&aq=0&oq=Calcium+carbide+ Remember putting a little in a part inner tube ... then a little water and tie the ready made noos quick and leave outside some ones door etc.... beat Rat a TaT Ginger any day. We would find it in the ole quarries and what not.

Terry Hately was dominate up there ... great player that couldn't hold a shirt down here, let alone an England one. Sutton spring to mind.... Gosh out side or Larsen -PSSSssss He wasnae a Scot, you still have night mare and haven't replace the likes yet. ;D ;D ;D

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:-/ :-/ If not sold :-/ Sounds like an Auction lol ;D ;D

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A Bigda even a has been Gazza was too good and took the pee. And in his twilight years there he was running rings around yer - must a 100 or more at least with out counting. :-/ Gosh Martin O'niel took a load of twilight players and dominated just as he and they pleased. Most couldn't have held down a shirt in the English Division 1.

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Well horses for courses and Celtic and rangers aren't geared up to do any good in the premier. Sure they can and will raise their game the odd time and beat say a liverpool etc. But to stay pace with the English clubs, especially with the players bought and wages paid, they would have to invest tremedously to live with the bottom six. As for foriegners taking their money out, if and when the bubble bursts, that is a irrelevancy because they would still be in the market at the going rate the market dictates. So you bought a house for a million pound. then sell for 850,000, so what you can still buy the same like for like for that same... and leave the cash even and gamble it might drop more even. If it does, buy it back, or similar, and then if and when price stabalize and eventually go up again, whoopi you make more money. Commodaties are good if you don't have to sel. Price is irrelevant when selling to buy anothet because thay will all have had the same cost effectiveness. Money owed to the banks - which most is, would be devalued. the owners would still be responcible and not the club's asset if any. So if sold on at a loss, the market would reflect as much.

Have to agree 100%. I sent 3 y/b's to Thurso 469 miles in 1989 I believe. It was the Midland National Championship Club or something stupid that only rn for a few seasons. Was a diabolical so - called race. Non stop heavy rain, and was the first in the Northants Fed ever to do it. 2 out of the three before any other, and a vast radious after our fed too. We sometime get and Elgin race 380 miles or so. But haven't of late mores the pity.

Home alone was Robinsons great one. I handled Twighlight.... caused a hell of a stink. I was 11 at the time and just , well did it as one does lol. Also 'Starlight. I believe if memory serves me correct they were 'King Brothers. I know it fetch 3625 and was then a world record. I believe also Louis Masserella bought it. Next record was early 60's when Frankie George bought that Dutch bird (again I believe) for £700. Now that one made the TV and all the media. But again I'd venture that it is the Distance birds that have nigh always demanded the highest prices, and as I say, Most, if not all, strains of repute have the Distance birds to formulate them regardless what distance they eventually excell at.

Well it is easier obviously, but then again not too many in the NRCC for instance fly the real distance. To, say from Thurso or Lewick especially to compare Louth, Lincoln, Norfolk etc. to flying Kiddiminster, West london, let alone Wales, Devon , Cornwall is a joke in reality. Sure they can't say too much.... or can they :-/ We flew the Faroes, east Norway. Bet your bottom dollar that the 'Names' in the East Coast Club wouldn't entertain it. Many have the birds, because of their set up to fly it any road. Nice to read Demolishion Mans comments regards of the LATE and Great F. Hall. He was also on of the 'Old Hands, with Stan Bishops etc. - there were five in all I believe - I am also correct, 99 .9 certain, that this was indeed the fellow that sorted Jim Biss's birds out, and bought for him when he Left London - where Biss had also flew well, to concentrate on a good location to achieve better things and ratings and merit. Now he could and did afford the birds true, but also knew how to fly them.

Yes, nice birds, have 2 - 3 have caught my eye .... so will be nice to the missis eh1 Gosh hope it ain't too long starting lol.

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Nah Hagrid would be good looking compare to you lol ;D

Another thing I think is correct and that's 'The quicker you become prepare to lose birds, the better your loft becomes, and quicker at that. Of course one must be prepared everytime to lose a afvourite. THEN and only then will one send their so - called Best to do the job in hand ... instead of making excuses etc. like putting to stock blah blah. they must go and prove the metal.

Yes, of course any bird will and can fly 500 miles if it wants to. If it doesn't it won't, and maybe some haven't the mind set or urgency to do so as quick as others do and it might. A second chance or whatever you decide.... Let Mr Basket have a say again, and again till the truth smacks you in the face. They can and will shape up, or won't. Homers become 'Racers' ummm a bit sceptical my self there. However I feel a valid point here is 'What distance do you wish to fly'? So as most agree systems and feeding are different why does one feed, have a system geared for all distances and types of races :-/ If I wish to start racing at 450 miles, why would I A. bother outside of expience and fitness / mind set send them. I wouldn't. Yep make get the odd swallow and win a few even, but that must be regarded as a bonus surely! So now I have contented and fit, healthy birds motivated to do certain races, yes at 450 onwards, if Mr Baskets sends them to another hotel so what! No good for me anyway! So withing say 3 years I'd have birds that wish, and are capable of doing the chores i want doing. Yes I don't mind them being in a 5 star hotel where I wait on them hand and foot! But believe you believe me, the sooner any birds are content with doing just that one simple thing for me, after all the sweat, cleaning and medical cares and top feed etc. etc, then the quicker they bugger off the better eh!

Canadians are governed - goverment ruling I believe - by I bird per square foot of air. that - if say is 6 high 6x6x6 divided by 9. so that would be 24, but that needn't nescate what air condition is of hand. An Avery and good AIR CIRCULATION means more I suppose. I had 16 piard breed in a 6 x 4 with no problems. But it was / is very well ventilated.

Good post, and reality. Remember the Fed banning us from flying the Shetlands with yearlings, to Lerwick. I don't know whether this has been recinded, but somehow I don't think so. The master sorter was able to do his job. The one 'Mr Basket' discarded were general proven poor stuff. Strange how an established loft can trace back to the birds that weren't molly coddled and the numbers - out side of 'Selling Merchants' are kept to relatively small. Give Mr Basket some fit and healthy birds and allow him to do his job I say.

Thanks mate. Just adding 'Arrows' to my bow lol. No not to shoot at the misses lol ;D ;D

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So they won't overeat and that's for sure. Now I can go along quite happily with that. Wonder whether IB has any thoughts / reason why one shouldn't mix the two? :-/

Wisdom is how to use knowledge wisely.

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Quote '..........I think this is another interesting point, I like others have quoted some performances, and Terry and Roland believe most birds can do 500. Now I don't agree and I'll tell you why put simply waht does the average small team man breed a year 30 the majority of ordinary back garden fanciers wil breed between 30/50 for racing. Tell me out of those 30/50 how many get past 300 mile, and how many manage to get to 500. How many birds do you send to sprint races 10, 20? How many make it to 500 2/3, statistically it shows that not many birdss fly 500. I believe what Albear says has bearing of course. Now, as Albear and most will remember and state, is that back 30 - 40 years, and definitely before, a back garden loft house 10 pairs. A big 'Mob flyer then lol' flew 24 and these went nigh every race and these fanciers did the whole programme. The latecomers were mostly there next morning on the loft, at least during the week. Few strays compared to today of course. This was when there were 140.000 flyers. Yes the 34000 fanciers send more birds today, fill more churches and though they somehow afford to keep, can't afford to lose their birds. It was via the Fanciers being gullible and easily led that the Railways became defunct as a means of racing. These that promised ‘Training and racing by Road was better and they WOULD train the club birds etc. etc. Yes they did for a season or so … till the ‘Lads’ could put them on the trains etc. Then it was ‘Pie in the Sky’ and they quickly forgot. These same 'Leaders' exploited then as now the masses to further and bolster their own coffers. They wanted 'so called Sprinters and middle distance races in order to race 2 - 3 times a week and make money. The grass routes were conned into think 'Mid Week' races were a better way or tossing - a Darn site dearer too! So the 'Systems were changed, altered to suit so called sprint birds. And gradually distances races took a back seat. Now further and further, even if all strains, regardless of distance intend are hatched so to speak from genuine Distance birds…. Or birds that have done it! I will openly admit that until recently I only ever had and flew 'Cast Offs' and others 'Culls'. Yes simply because I couldn't - like so many today - I was raising kids and a family (or two lol). Yet I was able to have 'Homers' from all race points and was there on hard and distance races, having the odd swallow or two.. If I could have afforded proper feeding and training etc. who knows I may have excelled, or ruin the system of 'Content and Fully Natural' flying completely. Was is it that many don't send to the distance and try? :-/ Well one is the adage excuse of not wanting to hang around in the evening or be up early next day syndrome. The other is they bought so-called 'Sprinters' that 'WON'T do the distance. Well they won't if not sent and that's for sure. Also why do the 'Location' boys have so called middle distance strains :-/ So they can steal a march on these contrived 'Mid Day' releases where they are held up at the channel so they can pop over first thing and time in whereas some are doing on tired wings, cold and damp after the water and fly another 2 - 300 miles :-/ then have the cheek to say they 'Flew the Distance' Races. Louth etc. flying against the inland lads, the Welsh cracks etc. and claiming the ‘Distance’ prizes! A joke, but that is another reason whilst the 'Distance’ races lost their applause and interest. Then they spread the Sections to bolster thei’ own coffers. Hopefully we will be flying club races sent again by the NRCC. Perhaps a few more will join again Certainly won't to fly against the East coast club elite and that's for sure. Just a good section merit would do wonders. Just a little more of a leveller of sections perhaps? It certainly wouldn’t go amiss. Indeed the whole cahoots of sections want altering and corridor against or with the Winds Points. I.e. Westerly! But that’s another topic. But as for the birds today, well they are certainly ALL capable of 500 milers; I believe that 500 miles is really in real terms at the end of 'Middle Distance'!

' ............... Therefore the last bid taken at 20:59 will win the bird. Provided it is the HIGHEST bid lol ;D ;D