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can tame your birds with peanuts but id say no more than 2 / 3 a day i think two aday and make them take them out of your hand they go NUTS for them boom boom lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

stay clear of wild bird food peanuts they have a high rate of mould on exceeding human consumption they'll make your birds very ill , buy human grade from your local supermarket i get mine from morrisons shelled red skins

had mentioned a blind / shutter earlier

various methods on parting i like to move all hens and ybs same day some let them go down for a second round and remove eggs at 10 days if you manage to get birds all down with in a few days id leave till ybs are 17 days old and leave cock with one he prefers to feed to finish it off for next 4 days

Florizone grizzles , but be pricey i bet

usualy corner of page they hurt lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

widowhood cocks will exercise freely and naturaly keep themselves fit when you fly this system you will see but as said above the key is the cocks dont see any other pigeon whilst out other than the cocks there housed with

im sure Jack Barkel would have a better idea of the racing scene over there

safflower hearts are smaller than sunflower seeds and easier for birds to eat and im most continental mixes , you can buy sunflower thats removed from the shell as hulled sunflowerseed , the choice is yours Jos Thone uses the hulled sunflower seeds to great effect his results speak for itself http://www.thone.be/

the widowhood system starts after the moult then rearing one round of ybs before training then racing , if this can be done in that order im sure its possible when does the moult fall and the racing start are you racing whilst moulting :-/

hulled sunflower or safflower hearts ????

had a think about this , i would put it down to the style of the lofts used there more like avairys , if cocks can see hens and vice versa whilst exercising the game is over its not impossible to fly widowhood but they would have to ensure whilst excercising they shutter up hen section whilst cocks exercising and vice versa also ensure no other birds like stock or ybs are visable for them to try to get to i think some sort of shutter system would work like a plastic roller blind

no problem

thanks have quite a few in last years ybs that havent taken pictures of keep meaning to do it but not best of light in loft to do them justice

my suggestion is try and buy a copy of Dave Allens 'A Widowhood year' it will give you the basics of the system easiest way of prepairing is to work backwards from your first race 3 weeks training + breeding + pairing +pre pairing = start date the above book is usualy available through amazon

could fill a few pages with mine past and present , but have a few on my photobucket link below

Welcome to Pigeon Basics , we hope you enjoy the site cant see it not working , some systems will suit one fancier and birds but not others , flying a widowhood bird is easier and dont need training after first race and keep themselves fit , you need to take as much care of the hens as the cocks , the other benifit is the birds fly on a near full wing which gives it an edge on the natural birds but without knowing how they've tried the system hard to say what they did wrong

bet he was one of the Jones family lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good post

pvc cladding lol

that i agree with using antibiotics when unnessasary is totaly wrong Although there are a number of different types of antibiotic they all work in one of two ways: A bactericidal antibiotic kills the bacteria. Penicillin is a bactericidal. A bactericidal usually either interferes with the formation of the bacterium's cell wall or its cell contents. A bacteriostatic stops bacteria from multiplying. Antibiotics are defined as any chemotherapeutic substance designed to kill or hinder the growth of microscopic organisms. Doctors are taught to prescribe antibiotics when they suspect that a particular condition is being caused by a bacterial pathogen. Unfortunately, many doctors also prescribe antibiotics for conditions that caused by known viral pathogens, such the cold or bronchitis. This is unfortunate not simply because of the expense involved or the possibly unpleasant side effects, but because it may wind up harming the immune system. The human immune system is actually a collection of defensive mechanisms against disease, and includes certain tissues, organs, cells, and enzymes. These elements work together to create a disease fighting system more powerful than anything medicine has yet to devise. Even the biggest breakthrough in fighting viruses in medical history, the vaccine, is simply a way to help the natural immune system do its job better. Antibiotics are actually designed to help the immune system do its job, and it may even do that in the short term, but in the long term antibiotics actually suppress the immune system. Firstly, medical antibiotics do not make the immune system stronger, they simply act a replacement for one of its functions: killing harmful bacteria. The immune system functions just like an organ or a muscle. When it is not put to use, it atrophies. So when an introduced agent does one its jobs, the immune system performs that job poorly once the agent leaves the body. This is why someone who takes antibiotics to cure a bacteria based disease may catch the same disease, only with more severe symptoms, at a later time. Antibiotics also do not make the distinction between harmful bacteria and helpful bacteria and cells. They "throw the baby out with the bathwater" so to speak. Certain strains of bacteria in the digestive tract are essential to digest food and produce healthy vitamins. When these bacteria are killed off, it may lead to vitamin loss, diarrhea, parasitic infection, and the development of allergies. Antibiotics, and in particular the over prescription of antibiotics, can create stronger strains of bacteria that even a healthy immune system is not prepared to fight. Throughout the history of biology, the evolution of bacteria, viruses, and hosts have more or less been in harmony. Every time a bacterium or virus became slowly stronger, immune systems have reacted by becoming stronger as well. The introduction of antibiotics through a bit of a monkey wrench into this. As bacteria were killed much more rapidly, they evolved more quickly than the human immune system. This leads to "superbugs," such as the staph bacterium MRSA, which is powerful it can turn deadly within just days. As the little disputed harms of over prescribing ineffective antibiotics become more apparent, and information becomes more widespread, more and more doctors are becoming less willing to dole out antibiotic prescriptions as thoughtlessly as they used to. This is fortunate, as patients might find benefit in simply taking supplements to boost their immune system to fight bacteria and viruses, such as true colloidal silver

Oh, let's not forget that we should also understand the difference between a drug and an antibiotic. Yes, yes, I can already hear the smart remarks. Well, an antibiotic is by most considered a drug, but a drug is not necessarily an antibiotic! An antibiotic works by suppressing the immune system, a drug per se does not affect the immune system at all. So you see there is a real difference. There are hundreds of fanciers misusing antibiotics like Baytril. They attempt to use this 3rd generation antibiotic as a performance enhancer. That is, you use the product, it suppresses the immune system, then as the birds come off it there is a slingshot effect as the immune system seems to go beyond the norm, and bingo, super health. Or is it? No, actually a sure-fire ticket to disaster! Do not use these mega antibiotics unless you have done adequate testing with your avian vet! In most cases less extreme older antibiotics will more than serve your pigeons' health needs.BMJ british medical journal birds have an entirely different system to humans :-/

well she cant be good with his wood lol hence he looked elsewheres lol ;D ;D ;D ;D