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cheers Brian

66481 – 66980 CA78 LARKHALL SOUTH PC Mr Bernard Martin, 5 Mary Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland ML3 6PX. Tel: 01698 281428

looking on net at a few pedigrees reds are possible i'd imagine from mercxks lines and roodhoof lines

http://www.cichlidlovers.com/birds_cats_bill_hart.htm http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/3141-some-pics-of-my-catalonian-tumblers/page__p__55311__fromsearch__1entry55311 maybe you can prompt Freebird to add some photos to his thread as they've been lossed in the move over

Most of the reds of the Jansen brothers are Van der Flaes , old lines include Mercex ( excuse spelling ) stamvader Oud vos ectra so plenty of reds in the Jansens and still are in the camphuss , pouw brothers and many other current Jansen familys of birds thank you ty was a test pair for next years pairings if didnt like them id of paired differently for next seasons breeding

get some photos up John be nice to see them

Bushaert x Luc Van Coppenolle

be better getting some catalonian tumblers they've been bred to out fly falcons and beautful birds to boot

its Natural that make them , there on this link below : http://www.naturalgranen.eu/pdfs/duivenspart_2007.pdf

The problem with most show birds is there bred for form or shape and sadly alot of these breeds have very poor flying ability , however if was to get a breed i liked i would work some crosses in to improve there flying ability

Try asking Graham Giddings http://www.nationalpigeonassociation.co.uk/#/committee/4526934528 he may be able to put you in touch with a breeder

Build your own much cheaper

Well done may your luck last

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thank you

well done George

aye there not cheap birds to buy

wish him all the best

East Coast no basketing tonight

you come here at high tide

top pigeons good luck with your sale

photo looks staged and no weathering to tags very suspious indeed