jimmy white

if its one eyed cold debbie, you will see slight bubbles on the bottom eyelid ,[if theve been fighting it will just show redness, swelling ] if it is one eyed cold it could get worse , but amazingly enough the frosty mornings are the best for the birds , this kills off a lot of nasties, [an old fashioned way,, was to put a clean spit :X not from a smoker , a childs is the best , this contains natural antibiotics which can help cure this ,,,yuc,, but true ;D,,,,,the old garlic in their water is a good preventative ,,for many things

pen 1 and 5 ,,,same bird [,so thats 8 votes], bred by a champion flier through the west ;D ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D old hens but still breeding ;D ;D ;D pups ;D [8 in a litter] ;D ;D ;D

i had a slight prob with this, but i told neighbour [who wasnt that bad] that i would proove it , i put tee shirts on the line and checked them with her every day for about a week , no mess at all ,,,,she now beleives me , its the wild birds

well,who am i to argue ;D ;D ;D ;D [ pen 3 is the only yb in the pens [apart from penned in ;D]

i voted for penned up , [im a crawler ;D] nice looking hen , was told by mark she was nice handler, just needs a little training ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D never got lost, ;D never sent back by amtrack ;D [nearly though ;D] but alltogether a nice hen ;D ;D ;D

brilliant vic ;D ;D ;D pen 4 is a 5 year old cock brother to 5th open scottish national

you can be sure of one thing if we" didnt play by the book" every pigeon fancier in brittain would suffer,,,,the mighty defra would make sure of that

i see where your comming from , me, but am i not right in thinking that no birds in a restricted zone can enter or leave [any type] maybe im wrong

sounds crazy ,,,but yes

any clubs interested in on-line shows , i should think at least it would make some fanciers happy [or at least happier :-/] at least they could have some sort of show , better than nothing

defra,s ruling is" all bird gatherings"" now this can be interperated in differant ways :-/ :-/ :-/

yes , this is quite right ,, but the big problem is , defra dont think like that ??? why?

i vote for penned up ;D,,,,,,,speckled , shell kill me ;D

pen 5 [the black that was attacked by the hawk [see previous pics on subject] made a great recovery , this was given to me by young westy , so im glad he can now see it well again

penned up

pen 6

pen 5

pen 4

pen 3

pen 2

during this sad period of defra,s ruling of "no bird gatherings" i wondered if we approached the webmaster , and for a small" gratuity" holdyour own club shows on line [your own club and your own judges] no handling classes though ;D obviously this wouldnt be the same as your local show , but at least your members would have a little fun [only takes one camera and one computer] maybe even have the webmaster put on a special thread for this , im going to have a bash at an example using this as a make" beleive club"where our members can vote , so please have a vote

just about broke my blinken neck ;D ;D ;D ;D,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but it sure does ;D ;D ;D

so sorry to here this , cemetry after checking with defra , "all shows with birds are cancelled " brother david phoned me this morning his big birmingham cage bird show [which he has looked forward to is off , i asked if shows could be postponed ,,unfortunately defra,s wording is" cancelled ", he is the secy] but he informs me , as for the pigeon men this could proove differant after the end of dec [defra,s meeting ] where the powers that be, should be putting up the biggest fight of their life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,shows can be cancelled then re-arranged at "another suitable time" possibly," just possibly"after that meeting ,,, so lets hope there are no more outbreaks , i dont know what the webmaster would think , but any club shows could allways hold looking through classes judged by your own judges on p,basics [at least we could all be at the show ] sad, sad time, but we must keep the fight up and find someway out

i agree , maybe someone can put me right, but did we not have this carry on last year? we had the same news,,,,,every show, sale etc was off , then it materialised that we could apply to defra for a licence, then under their" rules " cleanliness and hygene and certain other criteria ,,,,,,,,,,,,,we were able to go ahead