Dont think you need to treat to win Tony thats why i posted about someone who i know that does'nt treat for anything mate and has never vaccinated his doos either as he does'nt agree with it mate and he does ok
Never had any problems with someone not jagging their doos and i say that in my own club If you jag your own doos you have nowt to worry about so i never care about anyone else jagging their birds 8) 8)
I know of a loft that does'nt treat for anything and does'nt vaccinate and the doos are some of the finest you'll see and very rarely have anything wrong with them