This is one i can relate to ::)Took all my young birds for there 1st toss 6 or 7 years ago only took them to Sthrathclyde country park(roughly 2 miles away).40 young birds and 1 old bird that had flown most races for the previous 3 years and slept out once at Sartilly when he came the next day!Result 40 young birds home when i got back to the loft and still to this day no old bird : : :( Needless to say i have never took another old bird when training my young birds