fake rings on ebay

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

look

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/International-Pigeon-Ring-Band-Collection-HK-GB-NL-Phil_W0QQitemZ200176416599QQihZ010QQcategoryZ25426QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[DOVEScot]

look

 

Look like real rings to me

What clues do you have to the fact that they are fake?

[steve d]

the colours for the 2 gb rings advertised are wrong i would think

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

 

Look like real rings to me

What clues do you have to the fact that they are fake?

 

look at the gb rings mate and the nl rings are the wrong colour for each year and the japan one i have them in my collection

[DOVEScot]

 

look at the gb rings mate and the nl rings are the wrong colour for each year and the japan one i have them in my collection

 

Thought it was something like that but our fancy ones don't have these rings

[gangster]

  gb rings fake no  letter before numbers start

[DOVEScot]

Maybe there will be those daft enough to buy them as genuine fakes ;D ;D ;D

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

lol not on though

[pigeonpete]

  gb rings fake no  letter before numbers start

 

well arnt you clever!! you made them ;D ;D

[wayne77]

Well that is bit worrying someone has ability to make a duplicate ring.  If some undesirebles get hold then birds could be sold at auctions showing correct ring but original bird may not be one on offer   

Think associations need to look into this.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

i agree

[little sam]

SUM 1 GONNA CONTACT RPRA THEN ?  :-/ :-/

[wayne77]

Have emailed info to peter bryant Sam

[DOVEScot]

Well that is bit worrying someone has ability to make a duplicate ring.  If some undesirebles get hold then birds could be sold at auctions showing correct ring but original bird may not be one on offer   

Think associations need to look into this.

 

IF MAN MADE IT THEN SURE MAN CAN MAKE IT AGAIN VERY EASY :-/

[little sam]

Have emailed info to peter bryant Sam

 

NICE 1 M8  

[wayne77]

Yes agree Dovescot.  But feel someone has got hands on a machine that does job as pretty specialist machine.  I believe the rpra get rings from holland or belgium.  Just wondering how many machines exist.  Suppose a photo does not show if workmanship up to quality.

Makes you think why someone would go to that much work to produce fake ring.  If twig there is deceptionof pedigree birs on offer though could become problem.

[DOVEScot]

Yes agree Dovescot.  But feel someone has got hands on a machine that does job as pretty specialist machine.  I believe the rpra get rings from holland or belgium.  Just wondering how many machines exist.  Suppose a photo does not show if workmanship up to quality.

Makes you think why someone would go to that much work to produce fake ring.  If twig there is deceptionof pedigree birs on offer though could become problem.

 

Lets face it, a person on minimum wage probably turning out rings. you can also order rings from this country. Wouldn't be surprised if all made in pakistan or china.

I used to import martial arts equipment from Germany, Holland and France. Everything except the labels on the German equipment was made in Pakistan. That way the Germans could advertise as made in Germany

So I started importing straight from pakistan from the same factories as they used and put my own labels on it

[retired]

i would presume rightly or wrongly that the RPRA could not do a thing about this type of situation

[DOVEScot]

i would presume rightly or wrongly that the RPRA could not do a thing about this type of situation

 

Unless they are copying rings made for the RPRA then I would think not :-/

[retired]

 

Unless they are copying rings made for the RPRA then I would think not :-/

 

even so dovescot it would be like a needle in a haystack and even then what could the RPRA really do

[fred x]

How long will it be before They start making FAKE ETS rings!!!!!!!

I think the RPRA will be in more of a mess then it is now, with the ETS Rules. :-/

[retired]

How long will it be before They start making FAKE ETS rings!!!!!!!

I think the RPRA will be in more of a mess then it is now, with the ETS Rules. :-/

 

the ets rings with containinig microchips and unique serial numbers i feel will be a lot more difficult to copy, i am not for one minute suggesting they copy proof just that it would be a lot more difficult

[Guest]

:o contact seller for me Ben , tell him ill have 100 rings GB 2009 , and can he deliver january 2008 . would decimate yb racing   :o             p.s.        just kidding  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D                                 andy

[DOVEScot]

 

even so dovescot it would be like a needle in a haystack and even then what could the RPRA really do

 

There is nothing anyone could do. Any rings that are fake are made illegally for one purpose to make money,

1. either to collectors who think they are real

or

2. to breeders so they can sell falsely rung pigeons.

 

The first would just be a money spinner for the tool operator or owner, ring collectors that pay a lot of money would see right through it

The second would have to be well thought out and organised system and could make a lot of money. It would have to be a breeder with this intent in mind to ring birds at 5 or so days old. the possibilities are endless.