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One of the clubs I was in down South was Carterton with Ray Harris the Secretary and noticed he was one of the "new gang" as described by Stuart Wardrop and on reading further noticed he was backward in all his thinking regarding new technology and that was how I found him to be too. I remember trying to bring him into the year 2000 regarding computers, ETS etc which he was dead against and preferred to do results by long hand. Their was a retired Businesman pulling his strings and grooming him into Region Office. He was just out of his league as has been proved at the RPRA AGM. Perhaps if he had removed his Santa Clause beard he may have been taken seriously.

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