Human Rights

[Roland]

Well for those that remember just a wek or so ago that I propheised that it would be against an individual 'Human Right' to stop them from committing a crime...  Well seems quiker that even I thought.

Rapists etc. junkies etc. are in their' 'Right to be as such   ... seems that there is now a patition to sue the home Hoe for enforcing 'Cold Turkey' inprison, and that the imate(s) rights were intervened with!!!

 

[Guest]

Not as bad as the Judge in the States, who put a repeated sex offender on probation because in her infinite wisdom she judged that with him being just 5 feet tall, he would be laid open to abuse by other inmates if he was sent to prison.

 

LOOKS LIKE THE VICTIMS HAVE NO HUMAN RIGHTS AT ALL

[mark]

roland,

           the home office settled out of court now they have a nest egg when they are released,

[Guest WINGS 04]

if i had my say on it they would get more time for being junkies this is self inflikted no one makes you take it

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Well for those that remember just a wek or so ago that I propheised that it would be against an individual 'Human Right' to stop them from committing a crime...  Well seems quiker that even I thought.

Rapists etc. junkies etc. are in their' 'Right to be as such   ... seems that there is now a patition to sue the home Hoe for enforcing 'Cold Turkey' inprison, and that the imate(s) rights were intervened with!!!

 

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[Beanz]

There should be no seperation for sex offenders, they should be thrown to the other inmates and see how they like it.

[Guest]

Roland,

 

would you please NOT refer to the Gay Community in the manner you did.

MY SON IS GAY and there is no prouder mother that on the face of this planet, he his respectful, well mannered, doesn't molest kids and doesn't take drugs of any description except what the Dr. prescribes and if anyone else doesn't like it well TOUGH

[rockinrick]

 

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[Guest]

they put u in jail...when uve not paid a fine with hardened thugs....and not worry about u....a pedo does wot he does and gets protection?...where is this equal rights?

then when he is released they find him a home, a job and he gets big help..when ur realeased u get BFH.....bus fare home!!!.

the uk,s  in a mess and it wont change.

[RoryTheRed]

Welcome to the REDNECK world of Pigeon Racing; shame on all you bigoted, short sighted, right wing, red top reading fools of of humanity. Step outside the world of pigeon racing and get a life!!

 

Notable Gay, Lesbian, & Bisexual People

 

Here is  a list of notable gay, lesbian, and bisexual people because we feel it's important for the gay community (particularly gay and lesbian youth) and the general population to realize that gay people have made, and continue to make invaluable contributions to society. Having a list of notable gay and lesbian people also helps put a face on civil rights issues being debated across the country. This is not intended to be a comprehensive list of famous gays, but rather a sampling of the gay, lesbian and bisexual people who have helped shape our world, and continue to enrich our lives.

 

Sports

 

Martina Navratilova, professional tennis champion

Billie Jean King, professional tennis champion

David Kopay, retired NFL football player

Greg Louganis, three-time Olympic gold medalist in diving

Glenn Burke, Ex-Major League baseball player

Dave Pallone, Ex-Major League baseball umpire

Bruce Hayes, Olympic swimmer

Bob Jackson, professional bodybuilder

Babe Didrikson Zaharias, professional golfer

Tom Waddell, Olympic decathelete

 

Music

 

Elton John, musician

George Michael, musician

k.d. lang, musician

Melissa Etheridge, musician

Boy George, musician (Culture Club)

Ani DiFranco, musician

Brian Epstein, First manager for the Beatles

Liberace, pianist/entertainer

Aaron Copeland, composer

Johnny Mathis, musician

Iggy Pop, musician

Janis Ian, musician

Michael Stipe, (lead singer of R.E.M.)

Joan Baez, musician

Cole Porter, song writer

Leonard Berstein*, Composer (West Side Story, On the Waterfront)

Pete Townsend, musician (The Who)

Jimmy Somerville, musician (Bronski Beat)

Paul Rutherford, singer (Frankie goes to Hollywood)

Holly Johnson, lead singer (Frankie goes to Hollywood)

Emily Sailers, musician (Indigo Girls)

Amy Ray, musician (Indigo Girls)

Franz Schubert, composer

Peter Tchaikovsky, composer

Josephine Baker, singer

Andy Bell, musician

Benjamin Britten, composer

Bessie Smith, singer

Patty Schemel, drummer (Hole)

Dave Navaro, musician (Red Hot Chilli Peppers)

 

Writers, Poets & Playwrights

 

Willa Cather*, writer (My Antonia, O' Pioneers)

Radclyffe Hall, writer (The Well of Loneliness)

James Baldwin, writer (Go Tell it on the Mountian, Giovanni's Room, Another Country)

Andrew Sullivan, editor of The New Republic magazine

May Sarton, writer

Randy Shilts, journalist (The Mayor of Castro Street; And the Band Played On)

Deb Price, Gannett newspapers columnist

Edward Albee, playwright (Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf?)

Sir James M. Barrie, playwirght/novelist (Peter Pan)

Armistead Maupin, writer (Tales of the City)

Audre Lorde, African-American poet and activist

Rita Mae Brown, novelist

William S. Burroughs, novelist

John Boswell, historian/writer

Gertrude Stein, writer

Walt Whitman, poet (Leaves of Grass)

Tennessee Williams, playwright (The Glass Menagerie; A Streetcar Named Desire)

Hans Christian Anderson, writer of children's fairy tales

Malcolm Forbes, publisher

Somerset Maugham, writer

Sappho, Greek poet

Oscar Wilde, playwright/novelist (The Portrait of Dorian Gray)

Marcel Proust, writer (Remembrance of Things Past)

Emily Dickinson*, poet

Gore Vidal, novelist

Chastity Bono, writer for The Advocate (daughter of Sonny & Cher)

E.M. Forster, writer (Howard's End, A Passage to India, Maurice)

Amy Lowell, poet

Virginia Woolf*,writer

Alice B. Toklas, writer

Edna St. Vincent Millay, poet

Henry James,writer

Sir Francis Bacon, writer

Lord Byron, poet

Allen Ginsberg, poet

 

Entertainers, Directors & Producers

 

Rock Hudson, actor

Amanda Bearsey, actress

Ellen DeGeneres, actress/comedian

Gus Van Sant, filmmaker (My Own Private Idaho)

Sandra Bernhardt, comedian/actress

Siegfried and Roy, entertainers

Dick Sargent, actor (second Darrin on Bewitched)

David Geffen, film producer/music business

RuPaul, entertainer

Julie Cypher, director (Teresa's Tattoo, music videos)

Kate Clinton, comedian

Sir Ian McKellen, actor

Tom Hulce, actor (Mozart in Amadeus)

Marie Schneider, actress (The Last Tango in Paris)

Lily Tomlin, actress/comedian

James Dean*, actor

Pedro Almodovar, director

Lea DeLaria, comedian

Errol Flynn*, actor

Montgomery Clift, actor

 

Artists

 

Andy Warhol

Jean Cocteau

Michelangelo*

Georgia O'Keefe

Frieda Kahlo

Leonardo da Vinci*

Other Notable People

 

Someone you know

Someone you work with

Someone you care about

Someone you respect

Someone you love

 

Obtw i'm not gay but i do have many gay friends - of course i would i live in Brighton :

[paul l]

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                          paul

[Roland]

Your POINT being!!

 

THEY WOULD, NO DOUBT, HAVE been good as you say, whether gender benders or not.

And the first point should be 'Tolerance' and that implies especially to the 'Gay' community and not to keep ramming it down our throughts. Yes as human beings they have the right to exist as any one else... but not moreso!

It is after all these very same people ramming it down our throats that makes, and impresses upon youngsters that it is normal!

Was a time songs and peoms used 'Happy and Gay' definately daren't now lol.

[RoryTheRed]

Hetrosexual ' Sex Appeal ' is used everyday by advertisers to sell everything from CARS to Soap Powder, do you notice? Nah, your just watching the jiggly boobs and ram another bigmac or beer down your throat ( Throat Theory should be applied to lard asses ) without a thought about this; if gays were used to sell a product you would choke on your bigmac/beer before swearing abuse at the boobtube.

 

Remember that gays can read this site and will find you comments offensive; were your remarks regarding barbwire, wet hands and plugs ment to turn them on?

 

Rory

[Guest]

think its time to get back  to normality fela,s lets agree to dissagree , to each his own and all...everyone is entitled to their opinion..it would be a boring world with it!!.

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[Roland]

Can't see that any of the above list did much, very little indeed to help others enjoment and nothing at all as a Role Model. Yes I like the 1812 overture... So what!

A name that actually did a lot for the gay cause you ommitted... John Cousins, now he did chance and to an extent revolutonise Ice Skating. Indeed paved the way for so many... and it did cost him dear.

So nowt above for me to be thankful for... Only that they propugandered the way for more enlightenment to their cause. Saw Mr McKellen on Sat... he did nothing to endear normal hetro's to his cause. Only the ones who aready have the right. So let them get on with it, for pwrsonally I couldn't give a fickled rat *expletive removed* one way or the other ... just peeved - like so many others- with it being rammed down our throats of course. But as the Powers to be, and the broadcasting, entertainment concerns are rife with them, it will only get more undeserved, and not needed, advertisement...

End of subject as far as I am concerned.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

RORY YOU MISSED OUT FREDDIE MERCURY WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE TOP OF THE MUSIC LIST, HE WAS A MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN ANY MUSICIAN YOU QUOTED BY FAR  [  MY OPINION ONLY ]

[Guest]

What a mixture.  

 

Really hard to tell what the point of this thread is: can dig out and understand some bits, poor justice system, revulsion against child molesters.

 

But then strange words like 'normal' start get bandied about.  So who amongst you are the resident experts on what's normal? Bigotry is normal in some. But then you can get jailed for that.

 

Nothing about the right and state of being human, and human qualities like caring, compassion, understanding & empathy. No human has the right not to be these things. We care for our children, we don't abuse them and we don't want others to abuse them, hence our revulsion against child molesters. If same sex partners care for each other, its nothing other than human.

 

 

[blackjack]

Sir the word is homo sexual not gay .The word gay to me means happy fun loving which im sure most homosexual men are but not homosexual. What has happened today shows how the liberal elite who unfortunatly run this country do not represent  working class people nobody does anymore. Criminals are literally getting away with murder and druggies being compensated for getting of drugs because thier human rights might have been infringed.While pensioners get a £3 rise in the pension were is rights of the pensionersthen ?.

[Guest]

Hetrosexual ' Sex Appeal ' is used everyday by advertisers to sell everything from CARS to Soap Powder, do you notice? Nah, your just watching the jiggly boobs and ram another bigmac or beer down your throat ( Throat Theory should be applied to lard asses ) without a thought about this; if gays were used to sell a product you would choke on your bigmac/beer before swearing abuse at the boobtube.

 

Remember that gays can read this site and will find you comments offensive; were your remarks regarding barbwire, wet hands and plugs ment to turn them on?

 

Rory

 

Dead easy to lose the plot in this plot Rory.   Seems barbwire, wet hands and plugs were never meant for that group but for another, as under:-

 

"Well for those that remember just a wek or so ago that I propheised that it would be against an individual 'Human Right' to stop them from committing a crime...  Well seems quiker that even I thought.

Rapists etc. junkies etc. are in their' 'Right to be as such   ... seems that there is now a patition to sue the home Hoe for enforcing 'Cold Turkey' inprison, and that the imate(s) rights were intervened with!!! "

 

'Now cold turkey ... just wonder how our big boys would handle that one: equivalent of a broken leg left to heal on its own, no splint, no medication, no pain killer, with no doubt the odd 'shut up' thrown in when the whimpers become too loud. Think its called torture in some countries'

 

 

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TODAYS PAPER  76YR OLD MAN GETS 6 WEEKS FOR NON PAYMENT (council tax)

 

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JUNKIES TO SHARE £ 1000'S  FOR INFRINGEMENT TO HUMAN RIGHTS     :

 

THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD  :-/ >

 

BRING BACK HANGING AND THE BIRCH 8)

JUST A THOUGHT IN SOME COUNTRIES YOU GET THE DEATH PENALTY FOR HAVING DRUGS   :X  OUR COUNTRY    WE PAY YOU > ??) :-/ >

[Guest TAMMY_1]

AGREE WITH PEG ON SOME OF IT , I WOULD VOTE TO HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY BROUGHT BACK AND ALTHOUGH THE WORLD IS A MAD PLACE THE UK IS A HAVEN FOR UNDESIRABLES AND WE FROWN UPON SOME OF THE PUNISHMENTS HANDED OUT IN OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE THEY CHOP YOUR HANDS OF FOR STEALING, THEY NEVER DO IT AGAIN ANYWAY, A LOT OF IT MAY SEEM BARBARIC BUT IN MOST PLACES IT WORKS AND IF YOU ARE NOT BREAKING THE LAW IN THESE COUNTRIES YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, SAME WITH DRUGS LOOK AT THAILAND IF YOU GET CAUGHT WITH DRUGS YOU EITHER GET SHOT OR LIFE IN A HELL HOLE COME HERE AND YOU GET PAID IF YOU ARE A JUNKIE AND GET SENT TO JAIL WITH MONEY WAITING FOR YOU NOW WHEN YOU COME OUT, BEING SENT TO JAIL IS NEVER GOING TO CHANGE MANY OFFENDERS A HOLIDAY FOR SOME. I WOULD STILL NEVER WISH TO LIVE OUTSIDE SCOTLAND THOUGH FOR ALL THE FAULTS WE HAVE.

[Guest WINGS 04]

I THINK THE PPL THAT HAVE GIVEN THE JUNKIES THIS MONEY ARE ON DRUGS THEMSELVES

[Roland]

http://www.albertaclassic.net/powerpoint/Happiness_is_Voyage.pps

Self explanatory

 

http://www.albertaclassic.net/powerpoint/JustImagine_SandFantasy.wmv

so nice.

 

[Guest]

Retiring HM Inspector of Prisons did say prisons were being used as dumping grounds for people with 'social / medical problems' who shouldn't really be there.

 

As others have said, and I agree, the system is wrong ... need to change it and the treatment of some of the people currently in it, who should be held elsewhere.

[Roland]

     

I’ve, like most of you, have heard the silliness of the Argument that prisons should be warehouses for the undesirables.... that if left in society that they will amend to and reform better.

Cobblers, when it was three days a 'Like Meal' and three days bread and water, literally, not many wanted to go back.... that was when the crime HAD to fit the time paid, so even if they did get caught they were better of in the long run ... Except sex offenders etc.

Now the main cause is Drug Related, so why do the screws etc. let them have and take in drugs, or give them an alternative! It's simply for a peaceful life, less hassle when they are high like, nothing more, nothing less.

Me, well I believe that PRISONS should be a warehouse to keep the undesirables locked up and out of harms way. And those that went on hunger strike would have to do just that and stay on it till they decided to come off... not force fed and pampered too. No drugs, Lock up would be mainly that lock up with sensible time out to exercise, and they would have to earn the right for recreation and not have it as a right, and once in jail, all normal would have to be weighed up against the rights of those that have been offended against.

If you can't legally run a Business from prison, I'm flipping sure that all other rights are with held till those transgressed against have been compensated.

But that will never happen....

Seems strange that the more the 'Do Gooders' that incidentally live well out of harms way mostly - get their way and make it easier for the thieves, rapist, junkies etc. the quicker and higher the crime rate rises, a simple fact that! So why can't those that need to see it and legislate accordingly not act upon that fact.... Could it be that they are as bad!