New NFC Section for Scotland

[me]

"JUST READING ALL THE "ANDY GRAYS AND ALAN HANSENS" POSTS WHO NOWADAYS SEEM TO BE MORE ENGLISH THAN SCOTTISH. NEXT YOU GUYS WILL BE SUPPORTING ENGLAND WHEN THEY PLAY SCOTLAND AT FOOTBALL, RUGBY ETC. NOTHING AGAINST YOU SOLWAY GUYS SOME TOP FLYERS DOWN THERE BUT HOW LONG WOULD YOU LAST FLYING AGAINST ONLY THE ENGLISH WEEK IN WEEK OUT. BE GREAT IF YOU WERE ALL 100% FOR SCOTLAND JUST LIKE YOUR FORE-FATHERS WERE.....GOOD LUCK!!" -Andy

 

I would just like to apoligise on behalf of all the decent sporting pigeon people in Scotland for the garbage posted by Andy that I have quoted above, we are not all like Mr.Miller honest.

[me]

"CELTIC,

          ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR POSTING, BUT LETS BE SERIOUS THESE GUYS ARE GETTING THIS SECTION BECAUSE THE ENGLISH KNOW THE SCOTS ARE GOING TO WIN ABSOLUTELY F*** ALL AGAINST THEM, BEING IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL POSITION THEYRE IN. WHY DO THE CUMBRIA COMBINE AND THE UNC HAVE THEIR OWN ORGANISATIONS? ITS NO ROCKET SCIENCE.

                               GOOD LUCK..."

 

and if you applied Mr.Miller's logic to Scotland I presume the guys in the east and the south only let the lofts in the west of the country fly against them because of the geographical disadvantage they have to try and cope with.

[Guest]

"CELTIC,

          ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR POSTING, BUT LETS BE SERIOUS THESE GUYS ARE GETTING THIS SECTION BECAUSE THE ENGLISH KNOW THE SCOTS ARE GOING TO WIN ABSOLUTELY F*** ALL AGAINST THEM, BEING IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL POSITION THEYRE IN. WHY DO THE CUMBRIA COMBINE AND THE UNC HAVE THEIR OWN ORGANISATIONS? ITS NO ROCKET SCIENCE.

                               GOOD LUCK..."

 

and if you applied Mr.Miller's logic to Scotland I presume the guys in the east and the south only let the lofts in the west of the country fly against them because of the geographical disadvantage they have to try and cope with.

 

I think the geography Andy was talking about, and confirmed in Chris's post was, Northernmost section = sheer distance the Scottish birds have to fly. Chris's goal is to fly 800 miles (on the day?) into Eastriggs which is the Scottish Nationals' South Section, flying the shortest distances into Scotland. What kind of distance would the Rankines, Jock Ellis or John Donaldson be flying in this race?

 

Think that kind of race would be more properly termed a marathon or extreme diatance race rather than long distance racing, even into to the South Section.

[me]

"Think that kind of race would be more properly termed a marathon or extreme diatance race rather than long distance racing, even into to the South Section"

 

don't think John Proctor would agree with you Bruno.

[mickmcgrevy]

Me, LETS BE SERIOUS THESE GUYS ARE GETTING THIS SECTION BECAUSE THE ENGLISH KNOW THE SCOTS ARE GOING TO WIN ABSOLUTELY F*** ALL AGAINST THEM, BEING IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL POSITION THEYRE IN.

 

the scotish members have allways been able to compete in the NFC if they were in the RPRA, and they were all in section L, but there were only a few,  the reason that they have now been given their own Scotish section is because quite a number of the new Scotish club (which were convoyed by the NFC last year )have expressed a wish to fly with the NFC, simple as that. In section L as it stood they would have been flying, maybe up to 200 mile further,  so they now have their own section.  

 

Because of the large area which the NFC covers, the vast majority of prize money is payed out to the sections, not the open winners, simply because as you put it the back flyers don't stand a F***** chance,  lol   and i am one the back flyers at the mo  

[Guest]

What about John Proctors bird last year andy do you think he was nowhere we went up allmost at the same time and from the same point he was flying 613mls check out the vel what a bird on the night that bird was up with the leaders no probs well done John

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What about John Proctors bird last year andy do you think he was nowhere we went up allmost at the same time and from the same point he was flying 613mls check out the vel what a bird on the night that bird was up with the leaders no probs well done John

 

jocks doo put up a bloody brilliant performance,only doo in scotland on the night,but where did in finish in the "open" race

[Guest]

He did not finish any where he wasnt racing against the NFC at that time but he will be next year they recon in the top 20 flying at least 250 mls futher than the furtherst NFC loft that is what we would all like to do so dont take anything away from both John and the bird

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He did not finish any where he wasnt racing against the NFC at that time but he will be next year they recon in the top 20 flying at least 250 mls futher than the furtherst NFC loft that is what we would all like to do so dont take anything away from both John and the bird

 

DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH,I AM NOT OR NEVER WILL TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM JOCK OR HIS DOO'S .AS AN EX CLUB MATE OF HIS I KNOW HOW GOOD A DOO MAN HE IS >

[Guest]

Sory John would have been 137th the winner was flying 231mls dont think you can compare thease but that was a great bird on the day as well it had to beat thousands of birds lets face it we all want to win our sec then hope we do well further down the result and by the way that was in a strong N/E WIND well done John

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Sory John would have been 137th the winner was flying 231mls dont think you can compare thease but that was a great bird on the day as well it had to beat thousands of birds lets face it we all want to win our sec then hope we do well further down the result and by the way that was in a strong N/E WIND well done John

 

i'm not comparing ,others are ,all i am saying is it is possible to put up really good performances.jock has flew a good doo in the snfc for years.out of interest what were the velocities of the winning doo and jocks,i mislaid the bhw that it was in

[Guest]

1406 or there abouts flying 231 mls

[Guest]

There were a no of great performances from the Scottish boys tha day Harry Maidment had a great bird as well and john had a second bird in the morning

[mickmcgrevy]

Thats what is all about, putting up a good performance,  if you want to compete at the longer distances there is allways going to be someone who is flying  a lot shorter.  But so what there will be a lot of times when the longer flyers will kick ar**, and when they do I love it.

Mick

[Guest]

I agree Mick but some up here allways call it down because we are RPRA and not shu that was our freedom of choice but to them we are now English i dont think so iam as Scottish as i have allways been just want to race my birds and not be dictated to they dont seem to realise that we are all patrioic when it comes to it nothing wrong with that

[Guest]

Vic what is your thaughts on the Scottish section?

[mickmcgrevy]

Frank, to many politicians in the pigeon game. Just ignore them and send your birds where and with who you like, They are yours after all. And if you belong to the SHU, the same apply's.

 

Lets just race.

Mick

[Chris Little]

Well said Frankdooman  ;D ;D

 

Can't wait  

[Guest]

Come on vic i like your postings on other treads you say what you think and thats the way it should be its your thread i can take it good or bad tell us what you think about it

[Guest Vic]

Sorry Guys for not throwing in my thoughts, considering I started the ball rolling.

I, remember one year when the Scottish pigeons came from the Irish Sea, proving that this game is not as easily read as most think. I was actually amazed at the

breakaway factor from the real SNFC, but it seems they have achieved their aim.  

Regarding the chances of Section M? Everything will depend on weather conditions on the day. They will certainly be in with a shout, if the birds are restricted in the earlier hours of the race. HASN'T THIS HAPPENNED MANY TIMES BEFORE IN THE NFC? Remember Lancashire Rose, a perfect example. I only hope that it does not lead to further upsets in the GREAT SNFC. Vic.  

[Guest]

Good points vic as usual but rember the SNRPC  is open to all members in Scotland no matter what union you are in so if they want to race against the whole of the UK and more all they have to do is join i would call this a true National (dictionary national pertaining to a nation as a hole nation)

[Guest Vic]

FrankDooman, with all due respect, you asked for my opinion which I gave.

Surely whatever happens in the future, must be decided by the Scots themselves. Cheers, Vic.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Good points vic as usual but rember the SNRPC  is open to all members in Scotland no matter what union you are in so if they want to race against the whole of the UK and more all they have to do is join i would call this a true National (dictionary national pertaining to a nation as a hole nation)

 

Hi Frank

Would i not be right in saying that if i want to send pigeons to a race of the NFC i would have to join the RPRA.???

Maybe you can correct me on this if i am wrong.

 

cheers :)

Gareth

 

 

[Guest]

Correct Gareth unless the race was taking place under open license in that case all you have to be is a member of a reconised union the same as the SNRPC rules so i think that will ans. your next question as well

[Guest]

Maybe the NFC has the same rule as SNRPC you will have to ask the NFC members that in which case you can race as a shu member have a go you certainly have the right stuff to do realy well Gareth