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[Guest]

wits up way yi all no one want to mention the letter in todays homing world thought you all liked a bit of politics ,is the man right or wrong

[Guest]

How can you tell if the person is right or wrong, Sammy?

[Guest]

How can you tell if the person is right or wrong, Sammy?

 

aint no politician asked a question is he right or wrong you tell me

[ALF]

Kinda thought doos r us would've had something to say about that letter today!

[doos r us]

did not here any complaints when south west done it your only having a go at us because you dont like one of our members   anyway its a stuation thats easily sorted watc this space several new members joining shortly

[gangster]

did not here any complaints when south west done it your only having a go at us because you dont like one of our members   anyway its a stuation thats easily sorted watc this space several new members joining shortly

 

have i missed something here doos r us..........

[Guest]

 

aint no politician asked a question is he right or wrong you tell me

 

Not anything to do with politics, Sammy, its more to do with what is going on just now: some folk saying yes its OK while others say no its wrong - about the same issue - and its nothing about personal opinions either.

 

An example of what I mean is West of Scotland Fed., raised again in this thread. In another thread , two forum members have told us the membership is 22 - Tammy, reporting on what was said at SHU March Council meeting; and Doos r us, who is a member of that Fed. Two other forum members, Greengrass and Johno, tell us different, the membership is 13.

 

Now there's a letter in BHW on this, and other issues. So perhaps its a far different right or wrong that we should be discussing here, the rights and wrongs of using disinformation ... false information, intended to mislead.

 

Only one party can be correct here - so I ask again how can you tell which one?

 

 

 

 

[ALF]

The truth is Bruno they have 15 flying lofts just now (they had 16 but suspended someone) and we all know not enough to have a delelgate in the SHU council! This is what is getting a lot of peoples backs up nothing to do with the West of Scotland "fed" just the fact the the man representing them at council meetings should'nt be there at all

[doos r us]

glad thats cleared up its the man and not the fed     so it was pointless slagging off the fed and brining up the legalities of it as they would be happy to let us carry on if he was not a member          

[doos r us]

can i ask whats the difference lofts/flying lofts is there a rule that covers this as i read it it says lofts housing pigeons

[ALF]

can i ask whats the difference lofts/flying lofts is there a rule that covers this as i read it it says lofts housing pigeons

 

Can you tell me how many clubs in your fed that the SHU president is currently a member doos r us????

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Not anything to do with politics, Sammy, its more to do with what is going on just now: some folk saying yes its OK while others say no its wrong - about the same issue - and its nothing about personal opinions either.

 

An example of what I mean is West of Scotland Fed., raised again in this thread. In another thread , two forum members have told us the membership is 22 - Tammy, reporting on what was said at SHU March Council meeting; and Doos r us, who is a member of that Fed. Two other forum members, Greengrass and Johno, tell us different, the membership is 13.

 

Now there's a letter in BHW on this, and other issues. So perhaps its a far different right or wrong that we should be discussing here, the rights and wrongs of using disinformation ... false information, intended to mislead.

 

Only one party can be correct here - so I ask again how can you tell which one?

 

 

 

 

When I said there was 22 members Bruno, that was what the secretary of the SHU read out at the council meeting as it having, I personally do not know how many members or lofts there are for definate in the west of scotland fed, there are plenty of rumours as to how many there are  but it will have to be verified at some stage

[Guest]

 

When I said there was 22 members Bruno, that was what the secretary of the SHU read out at the council meeting as it having, I personally do not know how many members or lofts there are for definate in the west of scotland fed, there are plenty of rumours as to how many there are  but it will have to be verified at some stage

 

I know that you only posted up what had been said at the meeting, Tammy.

[Guest]

can i ask whats the difference lofts/flying lofts is there a rule that covers this as i read it it says lofts housing pigeons

 

I read it same way as you do: 5 members, each with a seperate loft housing pigeons = 1 club. 4 clubs = 1 federation. Surely nobody can demand that you race them?  

 

In previous threads the only 'iffy bit' that was brought up was on partnerships. 'They don't count'.  I cannot see anything about partnerships not counting: every member has to pay a fee, and evey member has a vote. Nothing to stop anyone being a member of more than one club, but is surely only counted once for Fed membership purposes ie pay only one Fed fee and one SHU fee thro your 'main' club.

[Guest]

I think andy s. is spot on and alf aswell its not about the west of scotland fed its the way things are bieng manipulated to suit some officals when it suits them and the point andy made is a very important one when say 5 members could technically make up as many clubs as they want/need to get councilers to meetings to push issues that they want to pass where does it stop!!!!

[Guest]

I think andy s. is spot on and alf aswell its not about the west of scotland fed its the way things are bieng manipulated to suit some officals when it suits them and the point andy made is a very important one when say 5 members could technically make up as many clubs as they want/need to get councilers to meetings to push issues that they want to pass where does it stop!!!!

 

So how do you 'technically' turn 5 members into 20 members and 1 SHU delegate?  

[Guest]

Thats easy bruno its all paper work just start fictitous clubs no one seams to be checking this so if you put forward different club names who is going to question this when the person you would complain to is one of they members

[THE FIFER]

club A/ with 5 members club B/ with the same 5 members, club C/ with the same 5 members club D/ with the same 5 members, = 4 clubs which form a fed = 1 delegate to shu, as rules go its possible, but the question is, you have 4 clubs but shu and fed only get one club membership etc, as u only pay those once and can be a member of more than one club, the queery bit that can be questioned is its clubs that are members of a fed not individual members so can u have only one club paying fees etc because they all have the same fanciers as members, ie' shu only getting i club fees but having 4 as members, a real funny one but my personal view is this should not be going on if it is without question by the delegates.

[ALF]

i see doos are us has'nt answered my question as to how many clubs the SHU president is actually a member of in the west of scotland fed

[Guest]

Spot on fifer see we can agree at last ( just having a wee joke fifer) this is what this form is for and i think if people from both unions with open minds sat down and talked about all the problems we could sort it out maybe not straight away but it would be a start the important words are OPEN MINDS.

[Guest]

maybe wings can start a club and atleast let the guy race his doos if its good for the goose -------------- why not at least he would be doing it for the right reasons

[Guest]

Spot on fifer see we can agree at last ( just having a wee joke fifer) this is what this form is for and i think if people from both unions with open minds sat down and talked about all the problems we could sort it out maybe not straight away but it would be a start the important words are OPEN MINDS.

 

While I agree with open minds and discussion, yours and other posts here infer that the formation of W.O.S Fed is 'iffy' and somehow caused the split from the SHU (it was the other way round, surely) and other members' posts also seem to infer that W.O.S Fed was formed for the sole purpose of giving the SHU President a delegate position.. and also infer its numbers doesn't warrant a delegate, and that SHU Council condones all this ...

 

None of these positions can be said to be the product of an Open Mind... it is simply another attempt to remove someone from a post by removing his delegateship, this time by deliberate meddling in and undermining of WOS Feds private business. Since when does one Fed's members decide who can represent another Fed?

[me]

The real sad thing about all of this is what everyone else thinks looking in sad really sad!

[ALF]

 

While I agree with open minds and discussion, yours and other posts here infer that the formation of W.O.S Fed is 'iffy' and somehow caused the split from the SHU (it was the other way round, surely) and other members' posts also seem to infer that W.O.S Fed was formed for the sole purpose of giving the SHU President a delegate position.. and also infer its numbers doesn't warrant a delegate, and that SHU Council condones all this ...

 

Bruno,i cannae believe am reading what you just wrote : : : : : :

[ALF]

And what i'll say AGAIN is that the wos "FED" should not have a council delegate