DOVEScot Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Out of interest do you think moderators should be elected for a term on the site, say a year then stand for re-election?
mac1 Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 i voted no,if they are doing a good job as they are they should stay as mods,if there is a problem the webmaster would put it right im sure ;D
chickadee Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Out of interest do you think moderators should be elected for a term on the site, say a year then stand for re-election? Yes I don't see why not, it may be a good thing for all, for two reasons.... 1. It would give a chance for whoevers elected to see how hard or easy it is to be a moderator. 2. It would give us punters a chance to see what other peoples point of veiw would be like standing as moderator.
retired Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 I voted for the proposal but this is not a knock on any of the moderators on the site, just my personal opinion that the members should elect those that lead them as with any club or instituation that has members or shareholders.
Guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 I wonder how long this thread will last before a mod. will take it off????????
DOVEScot Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Posted October 27, 2007 I wonder how long this thread will last before a mod. will take it off???????? We will just have to wait and see frank, it would be a sad day when out of interest you cannot poll the members :-/
jimmy white Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 im afraid a poll would be unfair, as there are members [which the webmaster knows about] with double , even triple names [even in some circumstances more] so a vote per address[if the members would give their address?? would may be more in line] ,,,,but, the webmaster is the boss [polls can be" rigged "by unscrupulous individuals ,as prooved in the past ] these are things we are trying to stop
DOVEScot Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Posted October 27, 2007 im afraid a poll would be unfair, as there are members [which the webmaster knows about] with double , even triple names [even in some circumstances more] so a vote per address[if the members would give their address?? would may be more in line] ,,,,but, the webmaster is the boss [polls can be" rigged "by unscrupulous individuals ,as prooved in the past ] these are things we are trying to stop Then your argument is to stop the numerous address not the poll surely, also the numerous addresses could vote yes as well as no and balance the outcome anyway
EAGLEOWL Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 im afraid a poll would be unfair, as there are members [which the webmaster knows about] with double , even triple names [even in some circumstances more] so a vote per address[if the members would give their address?? would may be more in line] ,,,,but, the webmaster is the boss [polls can be" rigged "by unscrupulous individuals ,as prooved in the past ] these are things we are trying to stop maybe the webmaster should display these people with more then one name ,things like this should be stamped out ,seems everyone was shouting about fraudsters not so long ago ,i say name them ,is this a way of people backing there selfs up if when questions get asked they dont like by pretending to befriends backing up there lies. great if your selling pigeons and need a supporter. if you could vote to make a change it would be illegal
DOVEScot Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Posted October 27, 2007 maybe the webmaster should display these people with more then one name ,things like this should be stamped out ,seems everyone was shouting about fraudsters not so long ago ,i say name them ,is this a way of people backing there selfs up if when questions get asked they dont like by pretending to befriends backing up there lies. great if your selling pigeons and need a supporter. if you could vote to make a change it would be illegal I was accused of being a multipal user by Bruno, for which he appologised, the mistake was, as you all know we have a number in the Dan Clan that log on under the same IP address, so there are possible loopholes in the system Back to the poll issue If this poll is removed then all polls should be removed because they all warrent the same argument surely
jimmy white Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 I was accused of being a multipal user by Bruno, for which he appologised, the mistake was, as you all know we have a number in the Dan Clan that log on under the same IP address, so there are possible loopholes in the system Back to the poll issue If this poll is removed then all polls should be removed because they all warrent the same argument surely yes you are probably right dovescot,, but most polls are to do with things less serious i,e how many ybs lost this season,,or is this a cock or hen poll , various things like this where we are just putting trust in the fanciers , but would prefer to use the word" debate" , rather than" arguement" as it is not an arguement
THE FIFER Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 I think the question of moderators regarding who chooses them has been on before and its the webmaster, as he is responsible for the site, if someone had a shop would they let the customers say who looked after it??
DOVEScot Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Posted October 27, 2007 yes you are probably right dovescot,, but most polls are to do with things less serious i,e how many ybs lost this season,,or is this a cock or hen poll , various things like this where we are just putting trust in the fanciers , but would prefer to use the word" debate" , rather than" arguement" as it is not an arguement so polls are only for less serious matters, argument would be YBS lost this season is a serious matter to some If I asked a thousand pensioners if the pension should be raised then I would expect a high percentage for If I asked a thousand teenagers if further education should be free then I would expect a high percentage for So in these cases then polls can be manipulated and used in an argument But when you ask a cross section ie the membership on the site then a fair poll is possible, on the assumption we have multipal users right across the site If webmaster knows all the multi-users as you say then use his power as the boss and deleate the ones he suspects and ask them to register under the new rules There is a factor if the site can boast a thousand members then they deleate the multiple ones and end up with 300 true members then what do you boast???
gangster Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 i dont see anything to gain by changing the moderators on here ive had a few diagreements with 1or 2 but in general they aint a bad bunch and we do push our luck with some threads that other site mods would jump on quicker with no disscussion...
DOVEScot Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Posted October 27, 2007 I think the question of moderators regarding who chooses them has been on before and its the webmaster, as he is responsible for the site, if someone had a shop would they let the customers say who looked after it?? True, but this is not a shop, its made up of members, unless you compare it to the CO-OP :-/
jimmy white Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 so polls are only for less serious matters, argument would be YBS lost this season is a serious matter to some If I asked a thousand pensioners if the pension should be raised then I would expect a high percentage for If I asked a thousand teenagers if further education should be free then I would expect a high percentage for So in these cases then polls can be manipulated and used in an argument But when you ask a cross section ie the membership on the site then a fair poll is possible, on the assumption we have multipal users right across the site If webmaster knows all the multi-users as you say then use his power as the boss and deleate the ones he suspects and ask them to register under the new rules There is a factor if the site can boast a thousand members then they deleate the multiple ones and end up with 300 true members then what do you boast??? DUNCAN,, THIS IS A PIGEON SITE, NOT THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT, THE WEBMASTERIS DOING HIS BEST TO FIND THESE AND DEAL WITH THEM ,,ASK POPEYE,,,,,GUEST USER 104 ,,,,TO NAME JUST A FEW [bUT THESE HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT ,AND RESORTED BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL NAME]
Guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 I beleive we should have no say in who moderates the site. The web master owns this site. He has the right to drive it in the direction suitale to himself. He sets the policies and rules. He needs moderators that will ensure his wishes are c.arried out. The downside for him of course that if his policies rules are not popular then the site will fail. I don't think the site is failing. If moderators were elected they may have more loyalty to those who voted for them than the moderator. I think the issue is if you have a problem with the way moderators are interpreting the rules then that needs to be taken up with the moderator and if necessary directly to the webmaster. But if the moderator is carrying out site policy, then I don't think you'll get much joy!
Guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Jimmy how come you are privy to this info?
jimmy white Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 BECAUSE I HELPED FIND THEM OUT ,,,AS MODERATOR
Guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Perhaps you could tell me who Mr Staf Van Reet's other ID was please ?
jimmy white Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 I DONT KNOW ALBEAR , IM NOT GIVING OUT INFORMATION ,IM ONLY USING AN EXAMPLE
Guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Can I apologise for the mistyping on many of my posts, my PC blew up and I'm using a damn lap top with a pad for a mouse and I just can't get used to it!!
THE FIFER Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 True, but this is not a shop, its made up of members, unless you compare it to the CO-OP :-/ no but it does belong to someone, namely the webmaster, and it is open to anyone to become a member, so why not go the full hogg and have the membership elected, if moderators were elected by the members they would have to be good boys, as do you think the ones they upset by deleting post etc would vote for them, and yes its made up of members who register and agree to the code of conduct which is made out by the webmaster who is responsible for the site, if members are going to say who is moderators and look after the site i dont think this would work, as there are members coming and going, and you could possibly get a groupe getting together and taking over, i think as long as i can remember the webmaster has done a great job keeping the site going and in good order, but its he and he only who can change things if needed regarding moderators, and as said before i think something along these lines were on site before and the webmaster dealt with it. and he is the only one who can.
Guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 ;D i have voted , not fussy , but would add , i am happy with those who are currently doing the job , and i beleive doing the job well . would also like to add not a job i would/ or could do ;D ;D andy
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