preditors tooth claw site

[ChrisMaidment08]

have been on this site and attempted to put the point of relocating preditor around the country useually in pidgen area im surrprised at the intrest it has caused on there site the thread so far has had8022 veiws and has caused a lot of debate  mind you they wont accept that it causes immence problems for us  but what can we do youer views and keep it mice bb watching

[just ask me]

thres no point in taking to these pll everyone just do there own thing

[Guest bigda]

dose anyone know a good hide where i can go and watch eagle owls at work as i think the are the most majestic  of all birds of pray

[ChrisMaidment08]

dont think there is anywere only hawking centres  ministry of defence wont let you in salesbury they told rspb to get st    ed as well they wanted to cull them

[Guest bigda]

dont think there is anywere only hawking centres  ministry of defence wont let you in salesbury they told rspb to get st    ed as well they wanted to cull them

 

surly not the rspb wanting to kill birds what would that do to there funds if the pubic found out about that

[ChrisMaidment08]

the public were told in program by bbc in it the army gave acces to film there were 2 pairs of perigrins wings round nest site rspb said they were a danger to dogs little children farm animals and as not native to britain should be culled army will not allow them acces

[Guest bigda]

the public were told in program by bbc in it the army gave acces to film there were 2 pairs of perigrins wings round nest site rspb said they were a danger to dogs little children farm animals and as not native to britain should be culled army will not allow them acces

 

what do you mean they are not native  to where

[ChrisMaidment08]

britain

[Guest bigda]

Britain

 

since when, my gggrand father was  a game keeper in Stirling and  he keep records of bears and eagle owls in Scotland and wolves what are you talking about,  he  doesn't mention falcons ,only eagles beavers  may be they are getting mixed up with falcons, that are not native to Britain that sounds more like  it

[ChrisMaidment08]

thats what i was argueing on site falcons were brought here by the gentry and then lived wild eagle owls were residents in all magor forrest areas    but the kill perigrins thats a no no as far as rspb is concerned

[the pigeon_milker]

all the birds eat pigeons even worms take the odd chick that is the natural way of life leave them to it hedgehogs will take your best birds its best to run them over before they get a chance to

[Guest bigda]

thats what i was argueing on site falcons were brought here by the gentry and then lived wild eagle owls were residents in all magor forrest areas    but the kill perigrins thats a no no as far as rspb is concerned

 

but what do expect,  if the only new the half of it the wound-en"t want to be associated with  the rspb if the dont beleve you chris get them to send to me,  and ill give them the proof  if they want   :)  

[bewted]

 

but what do expect,  if the only new the half of it the wound-en"t want to be associated with  the rspb if the dont beleve you chris get them to send to me,  and ill give them the proof  if they want   :)  

 

you can give them all the proof you like,but,will they take notice of you,,,,will they hell as like !!!!!

[pjc]

The RSPB will only ever blame everything but birds for reduction in numbers of birds!

They blame farming for reduction of song birds, not sparrow hawks and magpies etc etc

They will never look on there doorstep!

[bewted]

they dont WANT to look on their doorstep !!! thats just it !!!!

[Merlin]

 

but what do expect,  if the only new the half of it the wound-en"t want to be associated with  the rspb if the dont beleve you chris get them to send to me,  and ill give them the proof  if they want   :)  

 

Bigda

Tooth & Claw is an Open Forum with all points of view being allowed,as for them coming to us,dont think so,but we should be going to them and informing them of our concerns,problems,regarding our birds,and indeed all threatened species of birds,which in my opinion is a lot of the time down to the protection and breeding programes of Bird of Prey which are formulated and funded by the R.S.P.B ,nothing to stop anyone doing this in a factual and civil manner,but sadly not enough of us do this.

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

Bigda

Tooth & Claw is an Open Forum with all points of view being allowed,as for them coming to us,dont think so,but we should be going to them and informing them of our concerns,problems,regarding our birds,and indeed all threatened species of birds,which in my opinion is a lot of the time down to the protection and breeding programes of Bird of Prey which are formulated and funded by the R.S.P.B ,nothing to stop anyone doing this in a factual and civil manner,but sadly not enough of us do this.

no but we can keep trying       the pope??????

 

[sammy]

 

surly not the rspb wanting to kill birds what would that do to there funds if the pubic found out about that

 

this is just what we need but how do we go about it LETTING the public know what these people are really up to  

[ChrisMaidment08]

by attending game fairs and having our own stall with photos of damage to birds the cost and anything else you could think of

[Guest bigda]

by attending game fairs and having our own stall with photos of damage to birds the cost and anything else you could think of

 

bravo, chris  our own  racing pigeon stand next to the rspb  cruelty to birds  and all the rings displayed of birds that  they ate i am sure we could take  some photos of them  at the kill and as you say  the cost  of the  bird loss-ed  tell the public this was not one peregrine that done this damage

[bewted]

and who is going to do all this stalls,game fairs etc ????

[ChrisMaidment08]

all organisations should sort this out or the confederation should

[Guest chrisss]

and who is going to do all this stalls,game fairs etc ????

 

the rpra [and other unions]should be paying for this and so much more, we need a "counter propaganda dept" for want of a better word every time the rspb open their mouths about hawks we should be there with photos of the damage they cause not just to our birds but all birds the rpra get enough money from us to fund a small war ,never mind a bit of pr work

[Guest bigda]

and who is going to do all this stalls,game fairs etc ????

 

i would like to propose that  one member from each rpra,Shu,whu

ihu  nihu be  elected to attend on our behalf  with wages for the said

games Fayre's  at major events through out the season say about  10 Fayre's  a year  £10 per hour X4 =£40X8=£320x10=£3,200 set up costs as per unions tax allowances, with enrollment to help

the pigeon, if the rspb can get members   enrolled, why can"t we a donation from grain merchants and  studs would come in handy become a member and to make it work, i say £1,000 from each  union would amass £5,000  so there is lee-way there to go to-wards wages but something like this is needed to be done :( :'( :o

[BLACK W F]

this is not a case for any one union to take on  we need to be united in our efforts  to put a sensable point of view    if we do not unite and start  to solve the hawk problem in 10-20 years time pigeon racing will be a thing of the past

raising money has never been a problem when a good cause needs funds  

we need to find the right people to fight our corner and back them to the hilt     the time for talking about the problem has finished we need to act before its too late