Ryno Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 When do you lads pair up your widowhood cocks and how much rest should they have from raring to racing?. ATB Ryno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam owen Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 depends on wat you want them for eg wat races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demolition man Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Pair your birds on the 14 jan allow birds to rear one round and remove hens from the loft when the young are around 14 days old. allow the cocks to finish off the young. Repair the hens so that they lay 5 days before your first race. Race the cocks sitting for that race then remove all hens bowls eggs ect on the Sunday after the race. You are now on full widower. They will now race from short races to long enders. Or the other option is to race them dry pair them later allow to sit 10 days remove hens eggs ect one week before first race: or race first race on eggs if you prefer i find this better when racing yearling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Bern what's your preference of allowing the widowers to sit twice? What difference have you noticed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demolition man Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Bern what's your preference of allowing the widowers to sit twice? What difference have you noticed? I found by letting the cocks sit twice and race the first race natral it settles the cocks. and by pairing the birds on Jan 14th it allow's the cocks to recoupe and bond to the box after rearing the young. I also found it easier to get the birds in top nick and hold form for a longer peiod in the season What i don't allow is the cocks to sit more than 5 days on the second round otherwise it triggers the moult, by using this methiod i find they hold the moult for the long enders normally dropping their 1st flight around the first or second week in june. I've not been on my game the past few years and was pulling my hair out, (now i'm bald i've found the reason) :emoticon-0136-giggle: I noticed that i was having problems with this system the cocks would drop flights early then relised that a street light that lights up my garden was to blame:: The street light is the reason i'm reluctant to put sky lights in my loft roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam owen Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 bern that is how my granch done it top prize winner every year he pretty much followed the dave allan system interesting with the street light tho coz ive got one right by my loft av to watch for that next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 I found by letting the cocks sit twice and race the first race natral it settles the cocks. and by pairing the birds on Jan 14th it allow's the cocks to recoupe and bond to the box after rearing the young. I also found it easier to get the birds in top nick and hold form for a longer peiod in the seasonWhat i don't allow is the cocks to sit more than 5 days on the second round otherwise it triggers the moult, by using this methiod i find they hold the moult for the long enders normally dropping their 1st flight around the first or second week in june. I've not been on my game the past few years and was pulling my hair out, (now i'm bald i've found the reason) :emoticon-0136-giggle: I noticed that i was having problems with this system the cocks would drop flights early then relised that a street light that lights up my garden was to blame:: The street light is the reason i'm reluctant to put sky lights in my loft roof. bern that is how my granch done it top prize winner every year he pretty much followed the dave allan systeminteresting with the street light tho coz ive got one right by my loft av to watch for that next year you boys need a catapult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demolition man Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 bern that is how my granch done it top prize winner every year he pretty much followed the dave allan system interesting with the street light tho coz ive got one right by my loft av to watch for that next year I do't know about Dave Allen the best books i read on widowhood were by Ken Kipax and a book called the secret of speed by.E.J Sains you boys need a catapult You aint seen me shoot: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 you boys need a catapult And a few ball bearings or marbles Andy, you wirnae by chance bred in Craigneuk wir ye? Ps. Great posts you've put up Demo Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 And a few ball bearings or marbles Andy, you wirnae by chance bred in Craigneuk wir ye?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif . no John , but i did travel over that way a few years back , and taught some locals a few tricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam owen Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 yes I got that book it was my gramps many years old now ,good book tho wat you mean andy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 And a few ball bearings or marbles Andy, you wirnae by chance bred in Craigneuk wir ye? . no John , but i did travel over that way a few years back , and taught some locals a few tricks Ye must no sleep at night if ye were able to teach them round here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demolition man Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 yes I got that book it was my gramps many years old now ,good book tho wat you mean andy? catapult, street light in the garden don't take a lot of working out Adam: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maricelbill Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 you boys need a catapult or as we say in waterford a gallybander also useful for cock ups........jaysus lads, the whole thing went gallyhbanders or for poor looking women..........a head like a gallybander for stupid ideas..................are yeh off your gallybander all together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maricelbill Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I found by letting the cocks sit twice and race the first race natral it settles the cocks. and by pairing the birds on Jan 14th it allow's the cocks to recoupe and bond to the box after rearing the young. I also found it easier to get the birds in top nick and hold form for a longer peiod in the season What i don't allow is the cocks to sit more than 5 days on the second round otherwise it triggers the moult, by using this methiod i find they hold the moult for the long enders normally dropping their 1st flight around the first or second week in june. I've not been on my game the past few years and was pulling my hair out, (now i'm bald i've found the reason) :emoticon-0136-giggle: I noticed that i was having problems with this system the cocks would drop flights early then relised that a street light that lights up my garden was to blame:: The street light is the reason i'm reluctant to put sky lights in my loft roof. did you ever hear of a galybander? a hightly scientific gadget made from rubber bands. designed specifically, and at terrific expense, for problem street lights :emoticon-0136-giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 did you ever hear of a galybander? a hightly scientific gadget made from rubber bands. designed specifically, and at terrific expense, for problem street lights :emoticon-0136-giggle: haw you sling it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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