Throat Theory

[Guest Pearse]

can anyone explain this to me what it means with the numbers 0-9 ?

[gulkie]

I think you will find the mark is out of 10

[Guest Owen]

Why not test your birds by flying them and breed from the ones that do their best for you. Like most people I have looked at eyesign, wing theory, and just about anything else that was suposed to grade my birds. Although I should have known better, I wasted good time on these theories until I wised up. Any Geneticist will tell you that you should select for the factor that you want to emphasis in what ever livestock you want to breed. You should select for as few factors as you can. Breeding racing pigeons has only one factor worthy of note, winning performances. Not colour, shape, the size of their toes, the shape of their tonsils, just ability racing. Selection should be consistant and constantly taking you in the one direction. And, on no account should you breed from individuals that can not do the job you want from them. I am certain that when a Fancier remains true to his progress in the chosen direction he will not only achieve what he set out to do but create real depth in the team. I think that there are many theories and pit falls lieing in wait for us all because we all want to find the short cuts to the top, but in the end the task is to find the best birds possible and let them do what they will do if they have the right bloodline. Win. Then our job is to manage them so that they can perform to their best potential.

[Fly_caster]

can anyone explain this to me what it means with the numbers 0-9 ?

 

 

Basically - the "quality" of the Pigeons throat is marked out of 10. The "best" fanciers, I believe, look for a 9 or higher for racers and an 8 or greater for stock birds. (Open to correction guys).

 

The two items that are marked (making up the throat) are the "curtain at the back of the throat which should be correctly aligned, uniform in shape and complete with frills, just as a hanging curtain might be. Above this frill, is a slit, which should agin be perpendicular to the bottom of the frill, straight, unscarred and generally healthy looking. The perfect throat would obviously score a "10".

 

The theory is that of the throat is not good, that the air flow to the lungs and air sacks is disrupted, and therefore the ability of the bird to breathe at a rate which is conducive to top-level flying and racing.

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

(All open to correction )

 

 

Steve

[Guest IB]

My first question is how anyone looking into the pigeon's wide open beak can say with any certainty that the structures described are not fit for purpose? After all, breathing is not normally done with the beak gaping open, and the bird usually is stressed by that. When the beak is tightly closed, no-one can see what is happening when all the bits & bobs are working properly. So how can anyone say what those structures should look like?

[yeboah]

Why not test your birds by flying them and breed from the ones that do their best for you. Like most people I have looked at eyesign, wing theory, and just about anything else that was suposed to grade my birds. Although I should have known better, I wasted good time on these theories until I wised up. Any Geneticist will tell you that you should select for the factor that you want to emphasis in what ever livestock you want to breed. You should select for as few factors as you can. Breeding racing pigeons has only one factor worthy of note, winning performances. Not colour, shape, the size of their toes, the shape of their tonsils, just ability racing. Selection should be consistant and constantly taking you in the one direction. And, on no account should you breed from individuals that can not do the job you want from them. I am certain that when a Fancier remains true to his progress in the chosen direction he will not only achieve what he set out to do but create real depth in the team. I think that there are many theories and pit falls lieing in wait for us all because we all want to find the short cuts to the top, but in the end the task is to find the best birds possible and let them do what they will do if they have the right bloodline. Win. Then our job is to manage them so that they can perform to their best potential.

 

Good post, one of my most consistant yearlings and this years young bird were both bred from same

pair ,dams side just happens to have double gold award winner in its breeding , cream comes to

the top .

[Wiley]

the throat is the only theory I believe in. You will very rarely ever find a hen with a throat score of 10. However in an ideal world you would pair a 10 with a 10, the higher the score to 20 the better.

[Guest KING BILLY]

the throat is the only theory I believe in. You will very rarely ever find a hen with a throat score of 10. However in an ideal world you would pair a 10 with a 10, the higher the score to 20 the better.

aslong as the throats no cut you will be ok

[blaz]

wing theory eye sign theory throat theory the best by far is the FEET THEORY FACT

[JohnJ]

wing theory eye sign theory throat theory the best by far is the FEET THEORY FACT

yip thats the best 1 mate

[blaz]

wing theory eye sign theory throat theory the best by far is the FEET THEORY FACT

hear are 2 birds that prove the feet theory works

[Guest youngzimmy]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH MOST KEEPERS OF RACING PIGEON FANCIERS THESE DAYS IS THE FIRST QUESTION THEY ASK IS WHAT DRUGS SHOULD I BE GIVING THEM MY ANSWER IS NONE I NEVER TREATED THEN FOR KANKER THINK I LOST ABOUT 7-0UT OF 100 THERE IS A LOT TO BE GAINED BY NOT TREATING YOUR BIRDS FIRST FOR THE IMUNITY PERSPECTIB I E NO DRUGS NO INVASION ON THE BIRDS NATURAL IMUNITY SYSTEM SECONDLY IT IS IT COSTS TO MESS UP YOUR DOOS NATURAL IMUNITY SYSTEM I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF DOO MEN WHO DONT KNOW ANY BETTER AND WHO ARE WILLING TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD BUT BE WISE LEAVE IT OUT AFTER ALL WHO TREATS THE STREAT DOOS

[geordie1234]

hear are 2 birds that prove the feet theory works

whats the feet theory

[blaz]

well geo the feet theory is the easiest for example send 10 birds to a 200 mile race .the 1st feet on the landing board is your best 200 mile pigeon.feet theory is the best

[novo10]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH MOST KEEPERS OF RACING PIGEON FANCIERS THESE DAYS IS THE FIRST QUESTION THEY ASK IS WHAT DRUGS SHOULD I BE GIVING THEM MY ANSWER IS NONE I NEVER TREATED THEN FOR KANKER THINK I LOST ABOUT 7-0UT OF 100 THERE IS A LOT TO BE GAINED BY NOT TREATING YOUR BIRDS FIRST FOR THE IMUNITY PERSPECTIB I E NO DRUGS NO INVASION ON THE BIRDS NATURAL IMUNITY SYSTEM SECONDLY IT IS IT COSTS TO MESS UP YOUR DOOS NATURAL IMUNITY SYSTEM I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF DOO MEN WHO DONT KNOW ANY BETTER AND WHO ARE WILLING TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD BUT BE WISE LEAVE IT OUT AFTER ALL WHO TREATS THE STREAT DOOS

here where did u get 100 doos and when do u race them

[blaz]

here where did u get 100 doos and when do u race them

young ziimmy saying he has 100 doo,s .

I THINK IF HE TAKES HIS TIME AND COUNTS THEM THEIR MIGHT BE MORE

[novo10]

young ziimmy saying he has 100 doo,s .

I THINK IF HE TAKES HIS TIME AND COUNTS THEM THEIR MIGHT BE MORE

maybe got them but he doesnt race them

[blaz]

maybe got them but he doesnt race them

he should as i know whare some of them came from

(hear that zimmy get racing)

[novo10]

he should as i know whare some of them came from

(hear that zimmy get racing)

DONT CARE WHERE CAME FROM GOT TO KNOW WHAT UR DOING

[Tony C]

You have to ask yourself why some of the advocates of this theory send 80+ young'uns to a race............ have they all got the perfect throat? or..............

 

 

[holmsidelofts]

Its a strange thing throat theory, you take some of the best fanciers in the world, people like geoff kirkland, frank tasker, paul haulterman, they all say that the throat theory is the only theory that they believe in. if you watch the secrets of champions dvds it is explained full in there by these champions.

When you have people like these guys that fully believe in it there has to be something in it.

 

jas.

[Guest bakes]

Its a strange thing throat theory, you take some of the best fanciers in the world, people like geoff kirkland, frank tasker, paul haulterman, they all say that the throat theory is the only theory that they believe in. if you watch the secrets of champions dvds it is explained full in there by these champions.

When you have people like these guys that fully believe in it there has to be something in it.

 

jas.

 

jas this is somethink i am interested in very much and often speak to fanciers about the theory but most look at me and say load of rubbish the basket is the main part of the sport but i think every little thing does add up and if geoff and frank as well as other top flyers believe in the theory there must be somethink there so i for one would like everyones views on this theory.

 

all the best.

[bewted]

no use having any thoery if the pigeons are not up to scratch,,,,,,,,every thoery is only a small part in the make up of a pigeon as theres so much else to look for in any pigeon than just a thoery alone !!!

[budgie]

How many pigeons did they breed to come up with this Theory.Better lookin up their shucter and dont forget the 98% rule.

[Guest Brian.Duffy]

The throat theory has alot going for it and is the only theory I beleave in. Not only does Geoff Kirkland, Frank Tasker and Paul Haulterman beleave in it but here are other class fanciers that do aswell. Ad Schaerlaeckens, Ronnie Williamson and Paul Gregg. When fanciers of this class beleave in something then others should take heed, there not at the top for nothing. Just to be clear having a good throat alone is not going to make a bird a champion it still needs to have good balance, muscle quality and (BRAINS). The throat theory is only one of the things I grade my birds on but I only make that grade when they have been tryed and tested and are finished the moult atb.

 

Brian