Bloody Youngbirds!

[Ian Of Suffolk]

I Know most have you have heard this all before but its so F@*!ing frustrating!!

Been Letting my Youngbirds out now for a month.

I let them out they come out sit on loft roof for about 30mins then go up flying once they have finished plot around on my neighbours roofs until just before dusk!!!

Spoke to friends who said I must be over feeding and to starve them Which I done then let them out yest and it rained so got them all back in surprisingly quite responsive fed them then removed feed trough.

Let them out today bout midday 4 of twelve in loft 8 sitting on neighbours roof!!

Fed ones who first came in and have now removed food trough 8 still out!!

Feeding an ounce each bird once a day after exercise.

 

Please Help

Ian

[sapper756]

I Know most have you have heard this all before but its so F@*!ing frustrating!!

Been Letting my Youngbirds out now for a month.

I let them out they come out sit on loft roof for about 30mins then go up flying once they have finished plot around on my neighbours roofs until just before dusk!!!

Spoke to friends who said I must be over feeding and to starve them Which I done then let them out yest and it rained so got them all back in surprisingly quite responsive fed them then removed feed trough.

Let them out today bout midday 4 of twelve in loft 8 sitting on neighbours roof!!

Fed ones who first came in and have now removed food trough 8 still out!!

Feeding an ounce each bird once a day after exercise.

 

Please Help

Ian

 

Are there any cats around?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif

[OLDYELLOW]

yes very frustrating , and no doubt might make you angry , birds are sensative , feed once a day and feed them by hand id try to let them out late evening say 6 to 7 then feed them by hand youl get them more confident around you and associate you with food i have one that jumps in feed bucket whilst walking up garden the benifits are they'll also get a bond with you and love of home , also never leave food in loft , all the best Regards Mark

[Ian Of Suffolk]

No cats??

[JohnQuinn]

first thing to do is throw a brick at them, and every time they land on a roof, ANY roof in your vicinity, go and throw another one at them. When you get them down on the loft or garden then you have half a chance of getting them under control. Then only half feed them for 3 days running until they don't want to sit anywhere other than where you want them to.

[Ian Of Suffolk]

dont think neighbours would appreciate me throwing bricks at there homes!!LOL

[Guest joshdonlan]

let them out at half 7, as soon as it starts getting dark theyll be in and then feed them, they will soon learn.

[JohnQuinn]

They only complain when you hit a window, most of the time they just think i'm nuts!!!!

[Guest Owen]

Where young birds are concerned there is a routine way to deal with them. You feed them in a trough and never leave food down for more than 5 mins. If there is food left, deduct that amount from the next feed. Birds that are slow to enter your loft must not be fed. Shut them out if you have to. It may take a week to get them to understand what you want but if you remain resolute you will get there. When you deal with any livestock, you should always remain philosophical and never allow yourself to get into a temper. There is no need to chuck bricks or stand there for ages rattling a tin and calling them. Just give them a signal with a clicker or a whistle or even a verbal call. Do not call or signal for long and stop when the first few have entered the loft. The remainder will learn by going without. A word of warning, if you fail to have discipline now, you could be in real trouble later when they cost you races. Personally, I am, never impressed by people who tell me the tales about the birds that flew around and the others who landed on the house. People like that deserve to be beaten.

[JohnQuinn]

Not losing races is where the bricks come in, but i defer to your superior methods and will keep those thoughts for next years yb's. all the best

[Guest mick bowler]

I dont think you teach a YB anything by starving it, in fact can have the opposite effect in my experience. How can you teach a YB to come straight in for food if when it comes in there is no food? You should just feed a small bit.

 

I agree with the routine, which must start as soon as they weaned. They need to be taught to come straight in, but they only get to know that by association with the fancier (as you say whistle etc) and the feeding. I rarely need to throw stones at my birds for sitting on roofs. My house in only 20 ft from the loft but they never sit on the house once flying strong. They want to get in the shed as soon as they can and sitting on the roof delays that and they know it!

 

As for the flying around or landing on houses when racing, that can happen to most and is usually because of different reasons than allowing your birds to sit on the house, being caught (for clocking) being the main one, (thank god for ETS ). I've had birds trap like bullets yet others would not trap in a month of sundays and all brought up together and treated the same.

 

Its easy to educate YBs when you know how to do it, but for some it takes a while to learn how to do it. I always say treat them as dumb creatures and assume they know nothing.

 

Owen, I'll send you my address so you can come and beat me!!

[jimmy white]

I Know most have you have heard this all before but its so F@*!ing frustrating!!

Been Letting my Youngbirds out now for a month.

I let them out they come out sit on loft roof for about 30mins then go up flying once they have finished plot around on my neighbours roofs until just before dusk!!!

Spoke to friends who said I must be over feeding and to starve them Which I done then let them out yest and it rained so got them all back in surprisingly quite responsive fed them then removed feed trough.

Let them out today bout midday 4 of twelve in loft 8 sitting on neighbours roof!!

Fed ones who first came in and have now removed food trough 8 still out!!

Feeding an ounce each bird once a day after exercise.

 

Please Help

Ian

 

it must be remembered that young birds are naturally inquisitive, sometimes, unfortunately they will wonder from roof to roof, , starving them in my opinion, is not a good option for the growing bird, but a happy medium in feeding can be found, sometimes very little, but often, can be effective,, but, again hungry birds wont fly,, best to get them in a routine, if let out each evening [to begin with][,in my opinion 12 noon is not the best time to let them out],,, at this evening stage after having a very light feeding the morning, they should want to fly then , and should expand their energy, then be ready to be called in when needed, for their main feed

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[JohnQuinn]

When you look at the different responses to this thread, you see several different answers but they all aim to do the same thing, save time on race days. The different methods simply demonstrate the character of the fancier implementing them, your own character will determine which one you eventually adopt. Take it from a man who is blessed with little patience! choose the CALMEST method. Very best of luck to you and Lang May Your Lumb Reek in the doo GAME. :)

[just ask me]

great question and and really some class replies as well only thing i would add is maybe a little trapping seed for them when they come in use it it short supply though the last ones will realise they wont get much after a while

[nickiclark]

dont stress i just relisesed my young birds did start going to the roof and sitting there that was 2 days ago now i let them out at 4 that seem to be the most wen they are really hungray and listen to me

[budgie]

Time and Patience and always talk to them .