Pompey Mick Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 During the race checking last night my Club encountered a problem that I personally in 40 yrs of racing not encountered before. On checking the race rubbers it was discovered that three race rubbers had inside numbers that didn't correspond with the counterfoil, in fact they were completely different, luckily in all cases they were subsequent timings. It is purely a manufacturing fault as we obvisually checked every counterfoil for duplications This was a new batch of a 1000 rubbers out of last years purchases and we have had no problems like this before. To say this is worrying is an understatement as it is bad enough to cope with markers errors let alone manufacturing mistakes. We are talking of three rubbers out or 35 pigeons checked, a very high proportion. Our chief clocksetter has volunteered to check the remaining 800 rubbers to check how many more there are so that we can pass on our complaint to the retailer. WE are desperately hoping that this is a rogue batch or I can see the rest of the season being blighted. Has any forum members encounterd this problem on this scale? How will fanciers fare if it happens to an important timing?
Tony C Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 Pompey Mick I do the checking at the Fed and would hate to come across this problem. Could you please PM me as to where you got these rubbers from so I can warn Clubs/Fed that there's a dodgy batch knocking around. cheers Tony
Guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 we had the same, some inside numbers were the same. :-/
mealybar Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 We once found that say the outside rubber reads 1234, inside 884, a rubber numbered 1224, 1244, 2224 etc would have the same inside number of 884. Was the same for all the 3's, 2's (would have the same inside number)...and the rest :-/
Chatrace Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 Maybe someone was switching rubbers. Sounds like a fix may have beeni n the making or has already taken place if they were used last season.
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 the incident that pompey mick as encountered is serious to say the least the case of mealy bar is not because so long as the out side number on the tally and the rubber are the same then it would not matter if all the inside tally numbers and inside rubber numbers were for instance 333 or 222 etc example outside numbers 123 inside numbers 111 outside numbers 124 inside numbers 111 outside numbers 222 inside numbers 111 etc
Pompey Mick Posted April 23, 2006 Author Report Posted April 23, 2006 The rubbers in question were NOT used last season, only purchased in a batch of 5,000 and were not unpacked until Friday night. We are talking about a 100ml Club race here and none of the affected birds were even pooled, so any talk of a 'fix' is way off the mark. There is definately a manufacturing problem here which makes it altogether more worrying for everybody, most race rubbers come from similar sources. Our Chief clocksetter has volunteered for the dubious honour of checking the remaining rubbers in the batch and I will keep you posted on the extent of the problem. We had already used three packets of 1000 race rubbers from this order last season with no problems.
mealybar Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 the incident that pompey mick as encountered is serious to say the least the case of mealy bar is not because so long as the out side number on the tally and the rubber are the same then it would not matter if all the inside tally numbers and inside rubber numbers were for instance 333 or 222 etc example outside numbers 123 inside numbers 111 outside numbers 124 inside numbers 111 outside numbers 222 inside numbers 111 etc Sorry I forgot to put the reason to us finding the problem. The counter outside number was badly written, 6's as 5's, 0's as 8's, etc, so we checked the other numbers to eliminate them to find the right dup, and found that that didnt help as all the last digit numbers had the same inside numbers.
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