too start from scratch

westburylofts · July 23, 2006

If you was to start all over again

what birds would you get to be competertive from 80 miles to 400

miles,

And how would you race them,

would be great to hear your idears

ray

ACE LOFTS · July 23, 2006

well mate i am starting over again but i still think the janssens are the best from 80-400 miles on widowhood.

Tony C · July 23, 2006

Me personally Ray I would look to The Midlands for this type of pigeon, very competitive over them distances.

jimmy white · July 23, 2006

if i was starting , i would get to know the best flier at that distance, over a period of years, then try and aquire some late breds, have patience, breed from them and try and follow his methods,,,,,no matter what breed

July 23, 2006

Some of the blokes down the allotment were having a natter on about buying pigeons etc. The conclusion that was reached was that the pigeons we have are in the uk are as easily as good as any imports now with the amount of money and work fanciers have put into aqquiring the best stock they can from abroad and is a lot of the cases management matters more than the actual breed of pigeon as a good fancier can get the best out of a average bird that wouldn't chalk for the normal club man and if he gets a great pigeon he can get even more out of it. Hence the fact that a lot of fanciers buy birds from these aces and can't score with them and then moan that they have been sold crap. Jimmys advice is very good about following the methods.

Personally I quite like bushcharts as the man was a legend and people have had success all over the country with them and my dad had a lot of success with them when he was racing. I have an open mind through and with my racing career starting am interested in what breeds of pigeons people have had the most success with.

Staf Van Reets seem quite popular now and Janssans have always been popular but I suppose like everybody else a lot of crap has been bred from these strains. Guess its like everything you can try a few young birds give them a fair chance and see what works for you.

As an example of this a lot of people seem to have success with wildermersh my dad spent 500 quid buying a belg one a lot of money back in late 80's early 90's hell a lot of money to me now and he bred some off it and another wildermersh but he had no success with them at all. Maybe in someone elses hands the birds might have performed or with other wildermersh he might have had more luck. Guess its a case of try it and see. I'm going to breed some of his old stock to race next year I might win nowt with them and win races with some young uns bred off the janssans and ardans I have been given for nowt so then I am likely to like that strain a bit better than other ones.

I've thought about going to a local fancier to get stock but then thought he's hardlys going to part with his best unless he's having an entire clearance sale and anyway I want pigeons better than him so I would prob get some off someone not flying in competion against you who wins regularly at that distance and see if you can get some tips along with the birds

Tony C · July 23, 2006

System: over the past few years the weather pattern seems to have changed. We have more easterly winds in the early part of the season which hens seem to handle much better. This is reflected in our fed results even though hens have been outnumbered 3-1. So I would definitely find a system that enabled me to race a few hens.

westburylofts · July 23, 2006

I was thinking about trying a system where i have 16 cocks paired to two

differant hens that way i would have more birds to race, and would give me

alot of options

ray

July 23, 2006

Would you say roundabout is worth trying Tony? For people like me with small amounts of pigeons widowhood would appear to a bit wasteful as you have all the hens living like nuns doing nothing. A lot of distance people reskon hens make better distance birds do they have more more stamina than cocks?