Guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 i was wondering do most of you breed of stock or your racing team because lots of fellow pigeon fanciers i ask this question to varie their answers i know of people who do not keep stock birds but breed of their race team and still produce top quality pigeons that win so i would just like to get the forum members view on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Well i have bought birds in but i wanted to race them so i will race them and breed of them as oldbirds.This way i can see if they race well or they might bread a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_g Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 iv only got 2 stock pairs so this season i breed from another 3 pairs of racers only to breed the race team that i wanted26 youngsters in total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 it is also true that just because a pigeon is a top racer that wins left right and centre , it may breed complete rubbish alternitively it may not win races but may breed good pigeons you just really dont know all the best paul carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 by the way carl your website www.oddfellowspigeons.co.uk is reall good the picture of them birds in them leather jackets and them hats on with 'the new bread coming from odd fellows pigeons' undeneth them made me crease nice work!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Your rite there paul.What i would say to people that buy pigeons into there loft is,when you get the chance to take a few young from them take them,you never know.l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 yea totally agree with you carl once again nice website all the beat paul carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Thanks carter im new to the website stuff so hopefully the site will get better and better over the years. Thanks again carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doostalker Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 I have used a stock loft system for several years now, and take as little from the race loft as possible, as I think it is too much for them racing and breeding a couple of rounds of youngsters. Also with a fairly small race team, 16 pairs, you can be left hand feeding yb's if you lose any in the racing... and you always will lose some of them. The trick is to get stock birds that will breed winners, and then use these for the racing. As soon as I learn the trick, everything will be majic!!! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 PIGEONS ARE SO STRANGE AT TIMES, IVE OFTEN BRED A REALLY GOOD PIGEON OFF THE MOST UNLIKLIEST PAIR, BUT IF YOU DO GET A PAIR THROWING WINNERS, THEIR WORTH THERE WEIGHT IN GOLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WINGS 04 Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I BREED OF MY RACERS AS THEY ARE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF MY STOCK AND MOST HAVE GOT GOOD PRIZES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slugmonkey Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I breed from racers and stock I get 1 round off breeders and one off racers then compare notes when I get a good flyer I breed them back to family and breed from inbreds whith new house and lofts I plan on doing a little diffrent as I am going to build huge single mating facility so I can concentrate on breeding specific purpose birds I have about 6 single mating now hope to increase to about 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsPigeon Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 I breed from both. I slowly worked from breeding from prisoner birds when I first started to only keeping birds I raised for both breeding and racing, No Prisoners! I liked this very much, they seem healthier and happier, well happier, when they can all get out and fly. But as someone mentioned it can be tricky. It seems like by the time you know you have a pair producing winners you have lost one or both in the OB race season. But I have a hard time not racing good racers. And when you get the winners out of the unlikely pair as mentioned well this is magical as stated by another. And they seem to come from the pair that mated in the corner, unnoticed in the loft. The ones that you didn't pick to put in the breeding loft. And since I only breed from proven stock if I get new birds, well, now I'm back to keeping prisoners. And like slugmonkey said keep good records, compare notes, and breed back family members. And I hopefully I still have some relation to those good breeders I lost. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Still working on a system, but coming down on NOT breeding from racers unless they are showing promise. 2006 plan is to breed only from stock birds. 2 of these are to be paired with my two most promising racers for breeding one round from them and as safe mates, as these race birds are (hopefully) SNFC channel candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perk Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 best racer i,ve ever had never breed a bird to get to the first young bird race, he had different hens and i even held birds back and breed from them still the same.i had a young bird from two yearlings which was a mistake,she now has won me loads of cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_al Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I BREED OF STOCK BIRDS. I ONLY LET EACH PAIR OF RACERS RAISE 1 YB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WINGS 04 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 DO YOU FLOAT THE EGGS FROM YOUR STOCK BIRDS OR DO THEY RAISE THERE OWN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas tim Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 8) stock that are locked in or stock that fly out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Little Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Only breed from the stock birds The racers are for racing , nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 We don't rear any babies off the race team but float the breeding stock's eggs under them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinrick Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I have used a stock loft system for several years now,i very rarely breed from racers as I think it is too much for them racing and breeding rounds of youngsters. besides if you lose a bird while its got young it causes the other parent stress , but i do race while sitting dummy eggs as this means i dont have to re pair or cull a youngster cos the parent is stressed , jus my views lol rockinrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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