red x blue = dark cheq?

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

hi can you tell me how when i pair a blue hen to my very good red cock,that i get dark chequers and thats all my mate got out the cock aswell, i had my first ever red out of him last month,(well the first ever red he has had),i thought i would get reds mealies, blues and blue cheqs, not velvet/black cheqs,

ben

[REDCHEQHEN]

Does the Red Cock have black marks on feathers ?

 

[barlbylofts]

could have dark check in the blood from way back,grand parents / perants/ext

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

no darks in ped,and the red cock has a couple of black splashes

[Guest beautyhomer]

Red cock is:-

heterozygos for Ash Red

homozygos for checker

[REDCHEQHEN]

I asked about the dark splashes 'cos I knew beautyhomer would know the importance  ;D, its to do with dominant and recessive genes (I think) - so am I right in thinking that black splashes mean recessive red ? I have a red cock with black splashes who has produced only one red out of 7 youngsters when paired to a red hen, the youngsters have been blue chequers or blue bar, with one mealie cock and one red hen as off spring - I find it quite fascinating  ;D

[Guest beautyhomer]

The black splashes found on some ash red cocks have nothing to do with recessive red,this is a seperate colour altogether.Ash red is dominant over blue so when an ash red and a blue are paired together all young cocks will be split for ash red and blue but appear ash red.The black splashes show that one of the parents was carrying blue.These cocks will be able to breed reds and blues

[REDCHEQHEN]

Just when I thought I understood it - you've burst me bubble  :'(

[Dave A]

i thought that black splashes on a red or mealy meant it was a cock if it does not have them it means its a hen

[aarden]

thats pigeon flying for you redchequer

[Dave A]

so what can be expected from this pair

[Guest beautyhomer]

i thought that black splashes on a red or mealy meant it was a cock if it does not have them it means its a hen

 

Only ash red cocks have the black splashes but only if they have one ash red gene and one blue gene.If they have two ash red genes they will not have any splashes and will only breed reds

[Guest beautyhomer]

Just when I thought I understood it - you've burst me bubble  :'(

 

Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

thanks andrew

ben

[Dave A]

so beautyhomer what can i expect from the yello and the ble pied the yellow is the cock

 

ignore the last pic i got a bit exited

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

may i ask what breed is the yellow???kilpatrick????

[Dave A]

its a kirkpatrick mate and its a latebred and pic was taken 6 days ago

[Dave A]

one more question would these yellows carry a black splash if it is a cock as all cocks bred carry no splashes

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

VERY NICE MATE

[Guest beautyhomer]

Hi,Yellow is nothing more than a dilute ash red.Dilute is sex linked.Your yellow cock does not appear to have any black splashes so we will assume he is pure ash red (homozygos)

The pair will breed yellow hens and red cocks.Some of these young may have white feathers.If the cock is homozygos for checker all the young will be heterozygos checkers.If not you will get mealies and cream bars.

[Guest beautyhomer]

one more question would these yellows carry a black splash if it is a cock as all cocks bred carry no splashes

 

Which yellows?

[REDCHEQHEN]

Why is a 'dilute red' a yellow ? ( when its red )

and I'm not being funny when I ask ( because of the above ) what colour is a cream bar ( cos I'm not expecting it to be cream, again because of the above )

 

Confused ??  

[Guest beautyhomer]

A yellow is a combination of ash red,checker and dilute genes

A cream bar is a combination of ash red,bar and dilute.

 

If the yellow cock pictured is carrying the gene for bar (checker is dominant),half his young will be barred when paired to a barred hen

[Dave A]

cheers beautyhomer for the reply

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

good work,lol!!!!