poison plants

[westy]

what can you find in your garden that you can give to the pigeons that is good for them.

[Guest]

Westy,

 

Sow some cress seeds in a box with organic compost and when they sprout to about an inch give it to the birds compost and all.

 

You can also germinate barley in water in a flat dish until it sprouts, they pigeons love it.

 

Here in America a lot of flyers give their birds cranberry seeds stright from the bush.

 

[jimmy white]

THEYLL ALSO PICK AT A FRESH LETTUCE AND SOMTIMES A BIT CABBAGE LEAF

[Guest Silverwings]

martin , i use Rue ,dandelion ,borage wormwood, dead nettle and stinging nettle all grown in my garden, i take elder berries from the trees at the back of my loft freeze them in small bags and give them once a week i also give them chopped white cabbage most days but i get that from azda ......ray

[Guest]

Ray

 

How do you give the herbs you mentioned to the birds, do you use them in a brew of pigeon tea

[AlanWilkins]

Mint in boilin water then in the bath water works a treat

[westy]

thanks all.

[Guest]

Slightly different drift, Martin, some info (2 out of 3 posts, 3rd list is house plants, not relevant here) from my own library on garden plants, that are bad for the birds:-

 

 

DANGEROUS GARDEN PLANTS/TREES - Help for you and your birds

 

Amaryllis,

American Yew,

Azalea,

 

Balsam Pear,

Baneberry,

Bird of Paradise,

Black Locus,

Blue/Green Algae,

Blue Iris,

Boxwood,

Buttercup,

 

Caladium,

Caster Bean,

Chalice Vine,

Cherry Tree,

Calla Lily,

Christmas Candle,

Clematis,

Coral Plant,

Cuckoopint,

Cowslip,

 

Daffodil,

Daphne,

Datura,

Deadly Amanita,

Death Camas,

Delphinium,

Dieffenbachia,

 

Eggplant,

Elephants Ear,

English Yew,

 

False Henbane,

Fly agaric mushroom,

Foxglove,

 

Ghostweed,

 

Henbane,

Hemlock,

Holly,

Horse Chestnut,

Hyacinth,

Hydrangea,

 

Indian turnip,

 

Jack in the Pulpit,

Japanese Yew,

Java Bean,

Jerusalem cherry,

Jimsonweed (Thornapple),

Juniper,

 

Laburnam,

Lantana,

Larkspur,

Laurel,

Lily-of-the-valley,

Lobelia,

Locoweed,

Lords & Ladies (Cuckoopint)

 

Mayapple,

Marijuana,

Mescal bean,

Mistletoe,

Mock Orange,

Monkshood,

Morning Glory,

 

 

Narcissus,

Nightshades (all),

 

Oleander,

 

 

Philodendron,

Poinsettia,

Poison Ivy,

Poison Oak,

Pokeweed,

Potato (Raw),

Privet,

 

 

Rhododendron,

Rhubarb,

Rosary Pea,

 

 

Skunk Cabbage,

Snowdrop,

Sweet Pea,

 

Thornapple,

Tobacco,

 

Virginia Creeper,

 

Western Yew,

Wisteria,

 

Yam Bean,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

Hazardous Plants  

 

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Following is a list of indoor and outdoor plants and trees hazardous to birds. It has been gathered from various sources and is by no means complete.

 

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Unsafe Plants

 

Harmful Plants (first source)

 

Amaryllis - bulbs

American Yew

Avocado

Azalea - leaves

Balsam Pear - seeds, outer rind of fruit

Baneberry - berries, root

Bird of Paradise - seeds

Black Locust - bark, sprouts, foliage

Blue-green Algae - some forms toxic

Boxwood - leaves, stems

Buckthorn - fruit, bark

Buttercup - sap, bulbs

Caladium - leaves

Calla Lily - leaves

Castor Bean - also castor oil, leaves

Chalice Vine/Trumpet vine

Christmas Candle - sap

Clematis/Virginia Bower

Coral Plant - seeds

Cowslip/Marsh Marigold(caltha!)

Daffodil - bulbs

Daphne - berries

Datura - berries

Deadly Amanita

Death Camas

Delphinium

Deffenbachia/Dumb Cane - leaves

Eggplant - fruit okay

Elephants Ear/Taro - leaves, stem

English Ivy berries, leaves

English Yew

False Henbane

Fly Agaric Mushroom - Deadly Amanita

Foxglove - leaves, seeds

Golden Chain/Laburnum

Hemlock - also water the plant is in

Henbane - seeds

Holly - berries

Horse Chestnut/Buckeye - nuts, twigs

Hyacinth - bulbs

Hydrangea - flower bud

Indian Turnip/Jack-in-Pulpit

Iris/Blue Flag - bulbs

Jack-in-the-Pulpit

Japanese Yew - needles, seeds

Java Bean - lima bean - uncooked

Juniper - needles, stems, berries

Lantana - immature berries

Larkspur

Laurel

Lily of the Valley - also water the plant is in

Lobelia

Locoweed

Lords and Ladies/Cuckoopint

Marijuana/Hemp - leaves

Mayapple - fruit is safe

Mescal Beans - seeds

Mistletoe - berries

Mock Orange - fruit

Monkshood/Aconite - leaves, root

Morning Glory

Narcissus - bulbs

Nightshade - all varieties

Oleander - leaves, branches, nectar

Philodendron - leaves and stem

Pointsetta - leaves, roots, immature

Poison Ivy - sap

Poison Oak - sap

Pokeweed/Inkberry - leaf,root,young berries

Potato - eyes, new shoots

Privet

Rhododendron

Rhubarb - leaves

Rosary Peas/Indian Licorice - seeds

Skunk Cabbage

Snowdrop

Snow on the Mountain/Ghostweed

Sweet Pea - seeds, fruit

Tobacco - leaves

Virginia Creeper - sap

Water Hemlock

Western Yew

Wisteria

Yam bean - roots, immature roots

 

Harmful Plants (other sources)

 

Alacia

Apricot

Autumn Crocus/Meadow Saffron

Beans - all types if uncooked

Birch

Bittersweet Nightshade

Bleeding Heart/Dutchman's Breeches

Bloodroot

Bracken Fern

Broomcorn Grass

Candelabra Tree

Cardinal Flower

Cherry Tree - bark, twigs, leaves, pits

Chinaberry Tree

Crown of Thorns

Croton

Elderberry

Euonymus/Spindle Tree

False Hellebore

Ficus (weeping)

Firethorn/Pyracantha

Four O'Clock

Glory Bean

Ground Cherry

Honey Locust

Honeysuckle

Horsetail

Indian Licorice Bean

Ivy

Jasmine

Jimsonweed/Thornapple

Jerusalem Cherry - berries

Johnson Grass

Kentucky Coffee Tree

Lupines/Bluebonnet

Mandrake

Mango Tree - wood,leaves,rind-fruit safe

Moonseed

Mountain Laurel

Mushrooms - several varieties

Nectarine

Nettles

Nutmeg

Oak - acorns, foliage

Peach

Peanuts - raw

Pencil Tree

Periwinkle

Pigweed

Pikeweed

Pine needles - berries

Plum

Pothos

Prune

Rain Tree

Ranunculus/Buttercup

Red Maple

Sandbox Tree

Scarlet Runner Beans

Snowflake

Sorghum Grass

Sorrel(euonymus)

Sudan Grass

Tansy Ragwort

Vetch

Yello Jasmine

Yew (Amer,Engl,Japan) - needles, thistles

 

 

 

Sources: American Medical Association Handbook of Poisonous and Injurious Plants ; R. Dean Axelson, Caring for Your Pet Bird; Gallerstein, Gary A., DVM, The Complete Bird Owner's Handbook; Garry Gallerstein, Bird Owner's Home Health and Care Handbook; Greg and Linda Harrison, eds, Clinical Avian Medicine and Surgery; Gillian Willis; Wade and Carol Olyer Parrot Pleasures, Safe Wood Products and more

 

[westy]

thanks for that bruno

[Guest]

thanks for that bruno

 

Er, as you can probably guess, there's not a lot in my back garden other than grass and a palm tree!!!  

[westy]

lol yes bruno but it is handy to know.

[Guest Silverwings]

Ray

 

How do you give the herbs you mentioned to the birds, do you use them in a brew of pigeon tea

 

linda , I dry the herbs in the airing cupboard in the old corn sacks ,then crush them into a tea add some crushed cinnamon sticks ,about half a cup of herbs into a gallon of water just off the boil leave it half a day and strain it ,early in the season i boil the tops of fresh  stinging nettles strain them and give them a cup full of the water in their drinkers as for the elder berries i defrost them each week crush and strain them and  give them the juice in their drinkers also , i dont waste the skins and seed either i add a pound of sugar to boiling water and turn them to into a syrup ,gives them a lift during the winter shutdown  (you should see their condition ) ......ray

[Guest]

Thanks very much indeed Ray,

 

I have copied your post and filed it as I am very keen on giving anything natural to my pigeons

[bewted]

BRUNO,,,, i see you put hyacinth under the lists of dangerous and hazardous,,,,,i thought she was a very nice lady,,,,,,,hahaha

[westy]

BRUNO,,,, i see you put hyacinth under the lists of dangerous and hazardous,,,,,i thought she was a very nice lady,,,,,,,hahaha

 

LOL

[REDCHEQHEN]

following on from this - I found a list of plants that were safe for cats - could they therefore be safe for pigeons, to put in the garden?

 

      Achillea,

      African Violet,

      Alyssum,

      Aster,

      Basil,

      Bamboo,

      Bean Sprouts (homegrown),

      Begonia,

      Buddleia (Butterfly Bush),

      Calendula,

      Catmint (Nepeta faassenii),

      Celosia,

      Cleome,

      Chamomile,

      Chervil,

      Chives,

      Columbine,

      Cone flower (echinacea),

      Coriander,

      Cosmos,

      Cress,

      Dahlia,

      Dianthus (Pinks),

      Dill,

      Dorotheanthus (Ice plant),

      Forget-me-not,

      Heliotrope (Valeriana officinalis),

      Hollyhock,

      Hyssop,

      Impatiens,

      Japanese  Matatabi (Silverine),

      Lavander,

      Lemon Balm,

      Lemon Verbena,

      Lettuce,

      Lovage,

      Marum (Cat-Thyme),

      Miniature Rose,

      Mint,

      Monarda (Bee Balm),

      Oats  (sprouts),

      Orchid,

      Oregano,

      Pansy,

      Parsley,

      Parlor palm,

      Pea (garden, not  sweet pea),

      Peppermint

      Petunia,

      Phlox,

      Rose,

      Rosemary,

      Torenia,

      Scabiosa,

      Shasta Daisy,

      Snapdragon,

      Spearmint,

      Spider plant,

      Spinach,

      Strawflower

      Sunflower,

      Tarragon,

      Thyme,

      Torenia,

      Umbrella plant,

      Verbascum,

      Violet,

      Wheat  (Sprouts),  

      Zinnia,

 

[westy]

thanks red cheq hen

[Guest]

Would read safe for cats as 'safe for pets', Red Chq hen.  I tend to let the odd dandelion and chickweed plants grow in my garden

 

Must admit 'Unsafe' ones named in the lists contain one or two puzzles for me. Had HOLLY in the back garden which produced bluish black berries. Blackbirds fairly scoff them, yet holly appears in the list. And a devil of a job cleaning up after the blackies. Their black droppings contain tiny holly seeds, try to clean them up before my own birds get out and eat them. Moved the bush anyhow last year, but reckon I've killed it.

 

And LOBELIA? Usually plant white alyssum (OK!) & blue lobelia together in clumps; devil of a job howking one out while leaving the other in!!

 

 

[Guest]

BRUNO,,,, i see you put hyacinth under the lists of dangerous and hazardous,,,,,i thought she was a very nice lady,,,,,,,hahaha

 

 

Er, only her bulbs!!!  ;D

[Tico]

I use garden lime for the floor of my loft after ive cleaned the olduns out....keeps everything nice and fresh for them and doesnt burn your lungs out like hydrated lime!

[Chatrace]

make a cole slaw out of lettice,cabbage,carrots some oinion tops Clove of garlic Mix well and serve in a bowl. Watch them clean it out. A lite sprinkle of salt and very lite will even make them eat it faster

[Guest]

Do you mean green spring) onions Bill

[westy]

I use garden lime for the floor of my loft after ive cleaned the olduns out....keeps everything nice and fresh for them and doesnt burn your lungs out like hydrated lime!

 

never heard of that

[Guest]

I use garden lime for the floor of my loft after ive cleaned the olduns out....keeps everything nice and fresh for them and doesnt burn your lungs out like hydrated lime!

 

 

 

never heard of that

 

Garden lime goes under all sorts of names, Westy, including agricultural lime, and crushed limestone, and its basically a fine white powder,  ;D the same stuff that I know you use in your own loft - Floor White.  ;D

 

Tico's warning about hydrated lime is good advice. Goes under all sorts of names too usually beginning with 'hot', yep, it burns, funnily enough worse when it comes into contact with water! So be careful you choose the right one for use in the loft.