widdowhood system

[madmaxlofts]

as im going to try widdowhood this year could any 1 give me a simple feeds system? which corn? how much?and any extra tips which will help.

[Pompey Mick]

Try Jack Barkels articles,

www.allpets.co.za/jackbarkel

[Guest ben]

Hi Max,

             It don`t come much simpler than this:---Get a few bags of farm beans----- and bag of any mixture,or maize.......

    

  Right here we go----hopper feed beans 24-7,never take it out the loft....and as long as you call them in with a bit of mix,or maize they will do summersaults to get back in....

.----this way they only eat what they need,and they are so p----d of by the beans,thet will crave for anything else---there you go;---by the way,when all the other jokers on here tell you they can`t get their birds to score from the long races because they stop eating when they get themselves right,so lose condition in baskets.----you can laugh your head off and pray for a holdover,because they will get stuck straight into the cheapest mixture,or maize ....if your flying in the International races---- fed by the convoyers---andput on condition not lose it.

    So now you know why bean feeding natural flyers do so so well at the extreme racepoints----even BICC-----and you won`t find that in any of jack barkels articals.. simply because he seems to re-harsh same old rubbish we have read a 1,000 times before,jesus i wonder if i should be paid for writing this crap ;D ;D ;D

[schouwman71]

Ben ,i totally agree with you how you say feed the widowers,ive used this system on sprint races and won,and yes it does beat all the modernday rubbish you hear and read.Well wrote ben. ;D

[stevie]

widohood is the way to go so easy to do lol

[pigeonchested]

totally agree with ben.

hopper feed beans and trap them with a little red band, groats and some crushed peanuts.

simple and very effective

[Beanz]

So because Jack Barkel does not agree with what you say it is crap, I thought there was 1001 ways to fly widowhood and that includes feeding, I dont feed bean but I dont say its crap everyone to their own I say.

[Guest bristolkev]

i`m gonna try widowhood for the first time the year,i got 12 cocks hopefully raring to go

[madmaxlofts]

thanks for your help all

youve give me some food for thought

some good ideas :

[Guest slugmonkey]

I dont agree with many things that have been written here about feeding, widowhood or any other system, I belive that most handlers feed wrong - they feed the wrong time, the wrong substance, and for the wrong reason, ( motiavaion , unless in the case of sprint races less than 130 miles or under 2 hours ) races are won during non training months and these are when birds are fed the worst, barley all day every day with no exercise is a sure recipe for disaster all corn before a race again a sure fire way to lose, a well planned diet that offers variety as well as a LITTLE supplementation will overcome ANY course.

Trapping is the number one reason for food related motivation and most will tell you that their birds will trap if sufficently starved, does this make sense - I dont belive so if your bird comes home from more than 2 hours on the wing and dosent trap you have problems that reach FAR beyond being overfed on corn, look at the #1 problem  OVERCROWDING  and the list goes on pigeons are motivated to the box, nest, or perch, they don't come for their place on the floor behind the water and they dont come to compete for inferior food!!!( have you ever sent your best young to a futurity only to have lost them as training begins - maybe they are smarter than to stick around and be starved into submission ??? )

World class athletes eat world class food ! we often compare our birds to race cars, they don't run indy cars on bio-diesel and last years Barcelona didn't get fed barley 2 weeks solid before the race to lighten him !!!

I am not a literary critic but much of Mr Barkels articles contain useful information with a solid PRACTICAL basis I wish I had the time to study bioligy as he has, I don't know that I belive eyesign as he does ( I havent discounted it I am fairly ignorant to the subject ) but I do belive that you could learn a lot by reading some of his volumes. Our sport is not for the stupid or close minded and although dwindling in numbers and practioners, don't think it is dying only getting more competitive and a lot of the chaff is losing weight in the winds of diligence and tenancity

[Guest]

good posts ben and slug, some good points raised in there.

[Pompey Mick]

It is good to see a selection of feeding methods being explained but it is no good decrying one system against another because there are an awful lot of successful flyers who take a more detailed approach to pigeon racing and carefully prepare their feed. I suggested Jack Barkels articles because they contain a lot of good basic information in them which could be of use to a novice widowhood flyer. I accept that hopper feeding beans is a self regulating method of feeding and control and I may add its a bit of a lazy way of doing it. I should know ,as a working fancier, it is the method of feeding I practise and wholeheartedly endorse. But saying that I and many others, get beat regularly by fanciers whose  birds have never seen a bean and they're not all Jokers.

When I retire I shall hope to try different and more scientific methods of feeding when I have the time to do so and compare performances.

No system is the be all of pigeon racing, it would be extremely boring if there was it is up to every fancier to use the system that fits his situation best and he feels happiest with.

[jimmy white]

while i would say differant feeding for differant races, i would still give the widowhood cocks as from ybs, some tic beans ,,, primarily because the mix they fed them with, contains beans on the transporter , and if it were a 3 day holdover at least they would eat them ,,,,,,,distance,beans mix