What happens in the basket

[Guest CS]

I am keen to hear from list members what they think about basket conditions and what get's picked up in the baskets.  It is no secret that some birds go to the race in somewhat poorer coindition that others, maybe carrying come canker or cocci, even worms.  Sometimes a watery eye, whatever ...

 

 

 

Based on what was said previously about birds building up their own immunity, are we saying our birds don't need medication as a preventative when returning from the race just in case they decided to peck in a dropping, or just in the same air and space as the rest of the pigeons.

 

[gangster]

YES I CAN SAY THIS IVE NOTICED WHEN I LAST RACED OLD BIRDS 1 OR 2 SENDING BIRDS I WAS NOT HAPPY TO BE IN THE SAME BASKET AS MINE THE CONDITION WAS APPALING TO SAY THE LEAST , IT KINDA PEES YOU OFF WHEN YOU SPEND SO MUTCH TIME N EFFORT TO GET THE LOOKING THE PART AND AN *expletive removed* SENDS MANKEY BIRDS..............

[Beanz]

If birds in the baskets have anything wrong with them, you are quite within your rights for the officials of the club to remove them.

[gangster]

yes thats true but most aint got the nuts to enforce it .......

[Guest jason]

At our club if the birds don't look right in your basket, they refuse to mark them.

In 19 years I've been flying, there was only 1 fancier  sent home with his birds, beleive it or not he had 30 young birds in a 12 bird basket, all stood on top of each other so the secretary just sent him home.

 

Jason

[Guest]

think what its like on a 4 or 5 day holdover in france in all that heat and birds getting fed in the baskets :-/

[Guest]

Our birds fed outside the baskets geordie we got a trough that fits over the drinker and they get there corn outside much better way

 

your lucky rose

[Guest jason]

At the the end of the day, the birds will always pick something up in the baskets, theres birds in them baskets from many different lofts and every bird has a touch of something.  Its just one of them things.

 

Jason

[pigeonpete]

At the the end of the day, the birds will always pick something up in the baskets, theres birds in them baskets from many different lofts and every bird has a touch of something.  Its just one of them things.

 

Jason

 

totally agree, all pigeons will carry some sort of bacteria, which will never cause a problem in your own lofts, but when birds come into contact with a different form of the bacteria, they havent built up immunity to!! so thats why cider vinegar is perfect to use!! natural and cheap ;D

[tubbles]

After all the talk from distance flyers about ETS not affeccting them, this one should really affect THEM more than sprint flyers as sprint birds are only locked in overnight on most occasions whereas the channel and north road distance racers are locked away for days with sick or dodgy birds. ( i think north road races are over a couple of days ).

 

As for the birds not being accepted.... well we are not vets and while i think i know a healthy bird, who am i to say anything about someone elses. I think the owner should see they are not right but as was pointed out before, people tend to send the birds cos thats what they are here for.  I recall a few seasons back when one member missed the first two YB races cos of the dreaded YB Sickness in his loft 2 weeks before the season started. Birds treated and over it for three weeks, he come to the club and was quizzed by a member only to be told that this bloke that sent the week before had it throughout his yb team but he picked he "healthy looking ones". The mind boggles. ??)

[Guest]

Well hate to point it out, but if you don't have someone in charge of welfare at marking, you are not complying with race license condition :

 

Pigeon races

Individual pigeons should be inspected for signs of disease before being mixed with pigeons from other lofts in crates or transport containers.

 

 

 

We have a nominated individual, and if he says the bird is not fit to go, it doesn't.

[madmaxlofts]

mine get trimoxin in the water on return

not every 1 treats there birds

so our pigeons could pick anything up

it only takes 1 to regurgatate and thats it

thats without the water they all share

[Ronnie]

i just keep a watchfull eye on the birds when they come home from the race i wont treat unless i think they need treating.I use cider vinegar and garlic a lot though so that may help.

[madmaxlofts]

:'(

think what its like on a 4 or 5 day holdover in france in all that heat and birds getting fed in the baskets :-/

 

you can only imagine :'(

[Guest]

we had a past member send his m8 to the club 1 year, with his birds,as they were in line to be basketed, someone noticed that his birds looked rather rough.we examined a few and they looked very ill but had good body weight.

we decided to send the birds home.

next day we had the flyer complaining why didnt his birds go through?..we explained that we thought that they didnt look too well!...well he said theres nothing wrong with them. so we asked him to explain a greasy look about his birds head and shoulders...he explained (as he was newish to the sport) he has put cod liver oil in the water and the area greasy on the birds was from this ....a lesson learned that week for him....paul.

[gangster]

  WELL HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE HIMSELF YOU CANNOT BLAME THE MEMBERS FOR SHOWING CONCERN OVER THE HEALTH OF HIS BIRDS A GOOD LESSON LEARNED BY HIM I HOPE....................

[Guest]

I do crushed garlic in the drinking water every Saturday and Sunday 52 weeks a year. Takes care of anything that might be picked up in basket too.

[Guest CS]

This is the best way to keep all birds healthy in a club (if you can convince the "rest")

 

Put a metal grid in the floor of the basket.

 

No dirty feet.

Nothing "bad" can be eaten.

No dirty flights / tails

No dust

No fire hazard (very important, most fires in pigeon basket/transporters happens via sigarettes & straw.)

 

People say it is too cold: Put your hand into a full basket of pigeons in the winter, it is very warm.

Health wise, you will have a huge advantage vs other people not using it.

[peterpau]

Well your birds will always be exposed to the most unhealthy birds in the basket. Is it me or am I the only one to admit that I treat cocci kanker and worms on a monthly bassis. If I bring birds in I treat kanker and worms immediately and before my birds go elsewhere I treat before they leave. No such thing as a common cold No such thing as common kanker either

[Guest]

Interesting one about fire hazard, Craig.

 

All the Scottish North West Fed marking areas are Strictly No Smoking.

[gangster]

WELL  BRUNO GOOD POINT COZ I THINK ITS GOING TO BE  THE SAME EVERYWHERE  AND AS A SMOKER I CAN ACCEPT IT AS WELL........

[Silverdale Lofts]

Well your birds will always be exposed to the most unhealthy birds in the basket. Is it me or am I the only one to admit that I treat cocci kanker and worms on a monthly bassis. If I bring birds in I treat kanker and worms immediately and before my birds go elsewhere I treat before they leave. No such thing as a common cold No such thing as common kanker either

 

No your not the only one to treat canker or cocci on a monthly basis all the top flyers do the same.