Starting up with racers...

[jordanp31]

How many birds would you say i would need to race a season. I am getting my new birds soon and i wondered how many i will need if i race next season? Also how many will i need to breed off these birds to race the young bird races...  ??) ;D

[Guest]

only u can answer that lad what size of loftbyou have and how many can you keep in it comfartabley and what you can afford to keep and feed  ;D ;D

[Wiley]

i agree with sammy, but i find 20 pigeons allows me to compete to a fairly good standard, and about 50 babies thats myself personally

[jordanp31]

sammy  

 

I dont have a very big loft... a 6x4ft and 4x4ft with a 2x6ft aveiry... is this ok to race from and how many birds would i be able to keep???  

[madmaxlofts]

if that was me id use the 6x4 for 16 widdowhood cocks

the 4x4 id use for about twentish young 1ns

and id convert the avery for widdowhood hens on poles

or buy another shed

[jordanp31]

Cheers madmax that has helped me alot... I have perches already installed in the aveiry so i will probly do what you said. I cant really get a new shed because me parents are fed up with me taking their garden up ;D I just want to get racing with a basic set up and then see what happens... ;D ;D

[ALF]

if that was me id use the 6x4 for 16 widdowhood cocks

the 4x4 id use for about twentish young 1ns

and id convert the avery for widdowhood hens on poles

or buy another shed

 

THATS A LOT OF BIRDS FOR SUCH SMALL LOFTS MAX :-/ :-/

[madmaxlofts]

youd easy get 16 coks in there

maybe the young would be a bit tight though

[ALF]

youd easy get 16 coks in there

maybe the young would be a bit tight though

 

BUT WHERE WOULD YOU PUT 16 NESTBOXES???

[Guest]

Way too cramped...that is where all your problems will start,disease,fighting,etc,etc,you'll be on to a looser before you've even begun

[madmaxlofts]

on the back wall

6 ft = 4 across 1  1/2ft wide

         4 down = 16 boxes

loads ov space there

[madmaxlofts]

i dont think 16 pigeons in a 6ft shed is over cramped

[ALF]

on the back wall

6 ft = 4 across 1  1/2ft wide

         4 down = 16 boxes

loads ov space there

 

GOT TO DISAGREE MATE I'D NEVER PUT THAT MANY WIDOW COCKS IN SUCH A SMALL SECTION

[madmaxlofts]

how many joung birds would you put in the same space?

[ALF]

how many joung birds would you put in the same space?

 

MAYBE ONLY ABOUT A DOZEN TO 15

[jordanp31]

I have 12 nest boxes in the 6x4 loft on the back wall and 20 perches 10 on either side...

[madmaxlofts]

 

MAYBE ONLY ABOUT A DOZEN TO 15

 

thats 1 more than you would put in there

plus there desent sized boxes

 

my cocks rearly leave there boxes unless there out or getting grit or minerals or water

[madmaxlofts]

I have 12 nest boxes in the 6x4 loft on the back wall and 20 perches 10 on either side...

 

now thats a max ov 32 that is to much

[ALF]

 

thats 1 more than you would put in there

plus there desent sized boxes

 

my cocks rearly leave there boxes unless there out or getting grit or minerals or water

 

I SAID I WOULD ONLY PUT 12 TO 15 YOUNG BIRDS IN A SECTION THAT SIZE NEVER OLD WIDOW COCKS

[jordanp31]

even though i have 12 nest boxes i have only got 5 pigeons after a bad month of lossing 6 by mr hawk :'(

[madmaxlofts]

whats the dif

[ALF]

whats the dif

 

PERSONAL CHOICE THATS ALL I LIKE MY BIRDS TO HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AND I THINK THE AMOUNT YOU ARE PUTTING IN SUCH A SMALL LOFT IS TOO MANY REMEMBER THEY WILL HAVE THEIR HENS IN THERE ASWELL AT THE BEGGINING OF THE SEASON SO THAT MANY IN SUCH A SMALL SECTION ie...32 OLD BIRDS AND IF THEY HAVE ANY YOUNG YOU WOULD JUST BE ASKING FOR PROBLEMS IN MY OPINION

[madmaxlofts]

then he can open the avery up for more space

[ALF]

then he can open the avery up for more space

 

NOT THE WAY I'LL BE DOING IT BUT YOU CARRY ON...ALF

[Guest]

If you have 16 widow cocks do you not need 16 widow hens at the start of the season thats 32 birds in that small loft way way over crowded i would think