Yearlings

[Roland]

I wonder how many sent yearlings! I saw a few sent some in our club. any a good yearling will be lost today. Yes some yearlings will win ... But many will be the empty perches tonight.

We are only going just over 200 miles today, but I sent 4 cock birds, 2, 3 year olds and 2, 4 year olds.

[Guest]

ive sent 3 , yearling cocks ?? will let u know tommorow how they returned??                                                                            andy  

[max]

ive only got yearlings sent 10 hens to one race 100% returns and 7 cocks to another 100% returns

[rockinrick]

sent 3 cocks got 1 bk lol

[Wiley]

i sent 17 yearlings out of 28 birds got all my 17 yearlings and my other 11 older birds 100% returns

[Guest TAMMY_1]

I wonder how many sent yearlings! I saw a few sent some in our club. any a good yearling will be lost today. Yes some yearlings will win ... But many will be the empty perches tonight.

We are only going just over 200 miles today, but I sent 4 cock birds, 2, 3 year olds and 2, 4 year olds.

 

why would you think any yearlings would be lost roland?

 

I sent 19 yearlings, won the race with a yearling, first 12 birds home 11 were yearlings

[Guest]

;D ;D well Roland , all 3 yearling cocks returned and in a reasonable time too!!                                                     all the best , andy   ;)

[Guest]

 

why would you think any yearlings would be lost roland?

 

I sent 19 yearlings, won the race with a yearling, first 12 birds home 11 were yearlings

 

roland is taking through his experience lad listen to what he says burn them out now then you wont have them as three four year olds thats the old way and it still works try it  ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

roland is taking through his experience lad listen to what he says burn them out now then you wont have them as three four year olds thats the old way and it still works try it  ;D ;D ;D

 

you have to race them, how else will they prove them selves, cannae just gie them a race or two and put them in to hibernation for a year or so

[Guest]

he is not saying that pigeons dont like east winds more so yearlings thats were you have to be very careful the old way was to eace them out to 200+ miles well people looking for doos to do the nationals did  ;D ;D

[Roland]

Tammy also it is a realistic fact that Yearlings like the sun on their backs ... moreso than older ones. Yes on fine days yearlings win upto 500 miles no problem. Give them cold wins, and especially East winds that come from Siberia, and you are doing more harm than good.  My yearlings weren't tossed even as y/b's, and have had just two 30 mile chucks so far this year ... lost 2, and I would be quite hapy to leave them till next year. But won't as in June they will earn a perch this season. They have had a round, fed youngsters upto 16 days, and now seperated. for a few weeks. May mate  them with stock birds later to race when siiting and on a youngster.... but won't send when they are driving, as they have a tendancy to win, or be lost.

[tubbles]

I sort of agree with Roland here but as most people have more yearlings than old birds isn't it natural that yearlings go to all races. We have had mainly east winds to start the season but it has been warm every time until this week. previous weeks it has been sunny but this week it was overcast and quite cool i thought. This week was the worst that my birds have come for me, got one  (bacon saver for me) then it was a 9 minute wait for next bird. previous weeks birds were on top of each other. This is why i think Roland could be right but, only when it is not sunny. We have had 5 races and it is 3-2 for the yearlings in the club.

 

No member that i know of lost many yearlings, got all mine, but perhaps next weeks birdage will show.

[Roland]

If the reality is  that one feel that yearlings need expierence and training, sure  - and as most have raced them as y/b's, - that from the come back races in Good weather would more than suffice. That have already had expierence and just now need a little aforethought surely.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

have been sending to yearlings and getting both back every time

[Wiley]

i have to say i agree with some parts of rolands earlier comments, but those concerned with sprint and middle distance i feel it cancels the theory out, Im more sprint and middle minded and i have a rule no bird that scores after 2 yrs has to leave my lofts, and this couldnt be tested if the yearlings wasnt raced, my yearlings however will only go over 300 miles this year and no further,

[jimmy white]

its a long season,,,,,,,theres a differance in the way you treat yearlings , if you want them to win at 5 to 600 miles as 2, 3 yearold and upwards,, and rolands quite right in my opinion ,, pigeons hate east winds,, [ you have to think of the future, not the saturday comming,,,,and yearlings are better with the sun on their back ,, i have found this to be true in my experience , but every one to his or her own way :)

[carl]

I wonder how many sent yearlings! I saw a few sent some in our club. any a good yearling will be lost today. Yes some yearlings will win ... But many will be the empty perches tonight.

We are only going just over 200 miles today, but I sent 4 cock birds, 2, 3 year olds and 2, 4 year olds.

 

 

Well thats your opinion roland but how do you work that out..I sent 52 birds away most of them yearlings this week and i have 50 of them back.I didnt win but wasnt very far away. The yearlings hammered the older birds..

[jimmy white]

remember,,,auld reekie ,, probably one of the best nat birds in the uk at the mo. 1 nat 2 nat and so on ,, winning a lot of cash on the way [thousands   , w, kinnear and son have refused mega bucks for this bird ,,,,,,,,never raced as yearling??

[carl]

Quite often yearlings will do it for you but how many times can you keep expecting them to do it seen yearlings go to the distance and perform really well but you finished them for future years by doing it  lot of it is knowing your birds and knowing how far you can push them without doing any harm

 

Great post rose,do you think by sending yearlings all the way week in week out will burn them out for the future.Im mainly intrested in racing inland so i think its better to get them all the way down to 280 miles.

[Roland]

 

 

Well thats your opinion roland but how do you work that out..I sent 52 birds away most of them yearlings this week and i have 50 of them back.I didnt win but wasnt very far away. The yearlings hammered the older birds..

 

So!!!? seems you are only interested in wining short and middle distance ... I know, you are going to say that they aen't distance birds, and may I ask you these couple of things then Carl 'If the yearlings are hammering the old birds, doesn't it follow that the old birds aren't so good because they were hammered as yearlings.... Then why do you bother to feed and train and race old boys, surely you are wasting your time and money with them, especially as you know the yearlings are going to hammer them'!

[Roland]

 

Think it depends what your after how far you push your yearlings ours are just distance birds and they  dont get their first race until then and then they only get few channel races no some people who race ybs then leave them as yearlings and just train them

 

I believe that to many are RUIN as to lost, but then too many are lost because they think it is te right think to do.... Just look at the seasoned pro's and what he is sending, listen to his excuses, normally haven't had time ... so just sending a couple of ole troopers.... Means he wants a hand in the averages, wants the earlings for the Sun on back days of 250 - 450 milers, and has in the mean time rested the ones that should do the buisness on hard days and the distance.  JMI As every one pays the prices and rolls his own dice. But if you can't fford the price, don't roll the dice. I have basically 12 yearlings, and 9 old birds for a team, 3 6 year olds,  admitted it is ample, Some ( 3 two year olds to be tosed let alone raced yet) 2 two year olds had their first race Saturday last, not trained or raced as y/b's or yearlings. so I hope them 4/5 will show up well, from their breeding I have high hopes. 4 3 or 4 year olds. Was three minutes behind the winners, but they had had only 2 tosses before their first race ever!

I now have 18 - 20 y/b's, 2 14 day old ones to be taken away this week.

I have 10 pair of Delbar stok birds, so may well be overstocked next season, or at seasons end ... and I do like to breed a round of latebreds... for 18 months down the line. Yes I have ample room, and as a natural flyer mainly the time. But I believe one never does justice to their birds when there are too many, also one misses their talking to you when roof hopping. To be observant and do them justice, one should only need the glances, not peeringly looking and missing. JMO

[Guest]

my yearlings will be going as far as maidstone 387mls if i think there right

[jimmy white]

a pigeon is not fully mature untill its two years old,, to win at the distance they should be honed carefully untill their that  age , which ever way you choose to do this,thats if you want to win at the distance ,, sprint races differant entirely  

[Guest TAMMY_1]

my yearlings will be going as far as maidstone 387mls if i think there right

 

last year when i took the first 3 in the club , two were yearlings, 356 miles to me, most members in our club send a good few yearlings to maidstone as they consider it to be a yearling race, how many years also do you see yearlings timed in from over the chanel, there were someon the sheet from falaise last year, 500 miles plus

[carl]

 

So!!!? seems you are only interested in wining short and middle distance ... I know, you are going to say that they aen't distance birds, and may I ask you these couple of things then Carl 'If the yearlings are hammering the old birds, doesn't it follow that the old birds aren't so good because they were hammered as yearlings.... Then why do you bother to feed and train and race old boys, surely you are wasting your time and money with them, especially as you know the yearlings are going to hammer them'!

 

Your rite iam most intrested in racing from 70 miles to 320 miles,its a good point you have,maybe thats why my yearlings are hammering the older birds but who knows.I thought maybe its because im getting better with the birds and the birds are better.I have only flown for 4 seasons so i must push them to see what i have here..