chickadee Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 get chickadee to knit them socks and hats ;D You forgot about the scarf. ;D
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 THIS YEAR I STOPPED RACING MY YOUNG BIRDS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS BECAUSE THEY WERE SICK, AFTER TWO WEEKS OFF AND TREATING THEM THEY WERE RIGHT AS RAIN AGAIN AND DID WELL IN THE LAST TWO RACES, IF I HAD CULLED THEM THEN I WOULD HAVE HAD NO YOUNG BIRDS LEFT ,SO TREATING DID WORK FOR THEM. tammy each to their own ,did you have the problem last year . young bird sickness if you raced them whilst they had the virus it will have spread to other birds or in which case your birds have picked it up .i dont see how young bird sickness can be got over it in two weeks and at the same time be fully fit to race. it would be intresting to know if your birds become sick when breeding from these birds next season
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 tammy each to their own ,did you have the problem last year . young bird sickness if you raced them whilst they had the virus it will have spread to other birds or in which case your birds have picked it up .i dont see how young bird sickness can be got over it in two weeks and at the same time be fully fit to race. it would be intresting to know if your birds become sick when breeding from these birds next season NO , NEVER HAD THE PROBLEM LAST YEAR, NEVER SAID IT WAS YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS, WHICH IT WASNT,
Guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Very good view on humidity i take it your views are for the racing season what are your views about the loft conditions just now and for the winter months and do you race distance or shorter ?Eagleowl
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Very good view on humidity i take it your views are for the racing season what are your views about the loft conditions just now and for the winter months and do you race distance or shorter ?Eagleowl at this time of year my birds live outside in a aviary relaxing ,i race the short races no one seems intrested in the long races ,but if i was racing the long races i would not use heat for the birds ,let them come into form the natural way i always did this when racing the long ones and had good races.
Guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 That was my point eagleowl i think your spot on how ever its a wee bit harder in scotland it rains up here for fun
DOVEScot Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 That was my point eagleowl i think your spot on how ever its a wee bit harder in scotland it rains up here for fun Aye they had rain for a couple of days this year and see what happened, they couldnae cope, and noo were paying through the nose for seeds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 That was my point eagleowl i think your spot on how ever its a wee bit harder in scotland it rains up here for fun think this year its rained everwhere ;D yes natural form for the long ones but then each to there own ,but im a believer in horses for courses for the big ones and theres some great long distance flyers in scotland .the right birds right condition and motivation and a bit of luck they will come .
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Aye they had rain for a couple of days this year and see what happened, they couldnae cope, and noo were paying through the nose for seeds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and we gota hose pipe ban ;D ;D
Guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 I dont want to get involved in that one doves but i do think its sad that we can jump to help other countries and no jumped to help our own
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 I dont want to get involved in that one doves but i do think its sad that we can jump to help other countries and no jumped to help our own spot on frank ;D ;D
Guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 I tried the heaters and it brought the birds on too soon for the big races plus we can never tell how bad the weather might be from basket to return to the loft and the last thing i think you need is soft birds that go down when it gets cold got to be a fighter for they races
DOVEScot Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Eagle owl. you had me chasing Chickadee up to the lofts to close the vents and the doors to keep her birds warm for the winter ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 I tried the heaters and it brought the birds on too soon for the big races plus we can never tell how bad the weather might be from basket to return to the loft and the last thing i think you need is soft birds that go down when it gets cold got to be a fighter for they races years ago when i used to fly the big ones i had some dordins and george boll and ko nipus pigeons they would flyout every day all weathers rain snow you name it they went out they where tough pigeons . but i always found i got best results with them as two year olds and always the hens ,for the big ones .
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Eagle owl. you had me chasing Chickadee up to the lofts to close the vents and the doors to keep her birds warm for the winter ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Thats the worst about distance racing you have to think three years in advance and if you get wrong its a long three years to start again!
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Thats the worst about distance racing you have to think three years in advance and if you get wrong its a long three years to start again! i would agree with that ,but then some people get fantastic results with yearlings ,but i must admit i never sent a yearling always thought it was to much of a gamble ,me grand father used to say never send a boy to do a mans job ,
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 what you need for them big ones is a team of them fortune ladies brilliant pigeons big hearts fly all day
Guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 many a good yearling lost like that remember they are only a yearling for one year they are old birds for the rest of their lives
EAGLEOWL Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 many a good yearling lost like that remember they are only a yearling for one year they are old birds for the rest of their lives bang on .but many people seem to want run before they can walk .any pigeon can win a shortrace but only excellent birds win them long ones .
Guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 so how do you think i can improve the humidity for the longer races if necesary
Bobthegas Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Posted October 31, 2007 Thank you all for the advise, but if my loft was slightly damp, should i put extractor fans in with humidity stats and leave them on 24hrs?.....Any Ideas? Bob
Fair Play Posted October 31, 2007 Report Posted October 31, 2007 In this country it has been proved that central heating and windows all closed has produced the highest occurrence of asthma in humans I would take it pigeons are no different closed up lofts could lead to all sorts of respiratory ailments. It used to be the best thing for a cold was to get out for a brisk walk in the fresh air now we sit in a warm enclosed room and suffer give the birds as much fresh as they can handle never saw any problems with the "Lum Dossers"
Guest bristolkev Posted October 31, 2007 Report Posted October 31, 2007 here is a good post on this subject http://www.pigeon-chat.com/viewtopic.php?t=673&start=0
EAGLEOWL Posted October 31, 2007 Report Posted October 31, 2007 When the air inside the loft is not as fresh as the outside air, then there is a ventilation problem. The traditional pigeon loft is open at the front and gets good race results in areas with low humidity. Such a loft requires little other ventilation other than vents on the back and side walls of the loft. Place the vents under the perches rather than at the top, so that the air does not pass over the birds resting in the perches. The flow of air over the birds created by incorrectly placed vents is referred to as a draft and causes illness by preventing the birds from resting. The creation of proper ventilation in enclosed lofts is more difficult to achieve and in dry areas it is often better to avoid enclosed lofts. However, in high humidity and very cold areas the loft must be enclosed at night to maintain the form of the fit race team, although it is opened up as much as possible during the day. The best lofts can be opened up during the day and closed up at night, when it is raining or during cold humid weather. More ventilation is required in closed lofts than open lofts. Ceiling or wall ventilation fans are often used to improve the circulation inside the loft. Vents placed on the back and side walls near the floor are open during the day and on warm nights and closed when it is wet or cold. Double-check the quality of the air inside an enclosed loft by asking an asthmatic friend to stand inside and pass an opinion as to the freshness of the air ;D ;D
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