little sam Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 OH BUT ITS COOL AND HAS GD VENTALATION IN MY NEW LOFT ;D
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 ;D ;Don that note am away to change my GRIT the now ;D
Guest Paulo Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 by prisoneer stock dont get grti , well why do you all feed grit ...because pigeon people have always feed grit. follow the crowd and one day when you look up you will be lost. people if you feed grit good for you but i not gonna pay for some thing they dont need, try it feed some grit and some not, you will see no difference except on your pocket. best wishes spence what floor covering do you have in your stock loft sand???
Guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 i have not feed my pigeons grit for years and they are perfect and they win, i tell you what why dont you run a marathon after eating a bag full of stones, fed grit and handicap your pigeons by given them excess weight to carry, lemmings always follow one another .............. nuff said sp YA BANG ON MAN ,GRIT GETS GROUND DOWN WITH THE FEED THEY DONT NEED IT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DGOOD TO SEE SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME :P
THE FIFER Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 provided there is nothing added (salt etc) to make them eat it they will only take what they need,
DOVEScot Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 lol mate its not because of the drinker, its due to the moisture the drinker gives of via condensation, I have a lot of respect for your knowledge but not on this one It would be imposible to keep grit dry anywhere is this was the case, If you feel the heat coming from a pigeons body then the high chance is that they cool down by breathing creating a lot of condensation We stay in a relatively humid country and even on the best of days you get dew point Our pigeons enjoy a bath on the coldest of days, even have to break the ice sometimes, they sit with their wings extented in the rain to bath and cooldown where do you suggest we keep the grit please
timbarra Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 i scrap the floor daily paulo , listen to what i said , my birds do not get grit, thats it no tricks or gimmicks. thats it, think for yourselfs dont follow what everybody else does because.... cheers sammy, i came to this conclusion years ago and boy my birds never looked better.
Guest shadow Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 I have a lot of respect for your knowledge but not on this one It would be imposible to keep grit dry anywhere is this was the case, If you feel the heat coming from a pigeons body then the high chance is that they cool down by breathing creating a lot of condensation We stay in a relatively humid country and even on the best of days you get dew point Our pigeons enjoy a bath on the coldest of days, even have to break the ice sometimes, they sit with their wings extented in the rain to bath and cooldown where do you suggest we keep the grit please do not leave it down in the loft 24/7 just give them a small amount with their feed at least once per week
Wiley Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 I have a lot of respect for your knowledge but not on this one It would be imposible to keep grit dry anywhere is this was the case, If you feel the heat coming from a pigeons body then the high chance is that they cool down by breathing creating a lot of condensation We stay in a relatively humid country and even on the best of days you get dew point Our pigeons enjoy a bath on the coldest of days, even have to break the ice sometimes, they sit with their wings extented in the rain to bath and cooldown where do you suggest we keep the grit please the grit should be kept as far away from the drinker as possible, and like i said previously you should only give pigeons a little at a time, a pigeon only requires a pinch with like shadow said with the feed. Grit can become dirty, from dust and even the slightest of moisture can be kept hiden within the grit in the driest of lofts.If fanciers leave grit in 24/7, it becomes dirty, and will hold some moisture, that may not be visable to the eye, and pigeons will refuse to eat dirty grit, if you do this procedure change your grit regularly every 48 hours, prevents the grit from becoming dirty and holding mositure. The bath situation has nothing to do with grit, so cannot see the relevence this has to making the grit to with hold moisture ?
DOVEScot Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 the grit should be kept as far away from the drinker as possible, and like i said previously you should only give pigeons a little at a time, a pigeon only requires a pinch with like shadow said with the feed. Grit can become dirty, from dust and even the slightest of moisture can be kept hiden within the grit in the driest of lofts.If fanciers leave grit in 24/7, it becomes dirty, and will hold some moisture, that may not be visable to the eye, and pigeons will refuse to eat dirty grit, if you do this procedure change your grit regularly every 48 hours, prevents the grit from becoming dirty and holding mositure. The bath situation has nothing to do with grit, so cannot see the relevence this has to making the grit to with hold moisture ? Fair comment but grit will atract a certain moisture in this climate no matter where it is, and dust as well The minute we all let our pigeons out, you open them to elements beyond our control The pick freely at dusty, moist, possibly contaminated elements around our lofts and cotes Pigeons seem to thrive on grit scatterd on the road both moist and dry On the bath comment our pigeons come out for a bath and sortly after re-enter the loft to feed their young, so I think moisture is present quite alot in the loft apart from drinking water Just for interest I worked with fire retardent stone dust that was important that if stayed dry, when an explosion occured it blew the stone dust "airbound" and starved the fire of air, so if had a cetain level of moisture it behaved differently, Some pigeon boys used to take home bags of red stone for their pigeons
Fair Play Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Anyone who lives near the coast will constantly see flocks of pigeons on the shoreline picking away at grains of sand it's an inbuilt thing if they didn't require it they wouldn't take it!
George UK Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 i always gbive grit if i don't they peck the morter on the lower bricks glad my house is still standing changed my pet shop he never has anything
Back garden fancier Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 My birds only peck about at oyster shell grit, but scoff redstone grit for fun. Not sure why?
timbarra Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 its not the grit they want but the powder that is holding the pickstone together, look further than what you see. sive the pickstones put powder in one pile and grit in the other and see what they want..... you will find i am right. but will anybody learn and listen , doubt it . follow what everyone else does as most do, that will not seperate you from the also rans , just make you one of them !!! i dont feed grit and will never feed the crap. regards spencer
DOVEScot Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 We have birds in lofts and birds in cotes. The ones in the cotes are as near to being natural as possible. I have a pile of type one ballast which is the grey chrushed stone we use for hardcore when doing driveways etc. Our birds from the cotes have picked it clean of all small particles so they must get something from it. I must add cheap by the way at £10 a ton from the quarry ;D
THE FIFER Posted October 5, 2007 Report Posted October 5, 2007 Anyone who lives near the coast will constantly see flocks of pigeons on the shoreline picking away at grains of sand it's an inbuilt thing if they didn't require it they wouldn't take it! always loads of racinng pigeons down at the beach picking the grit, i sometimes collect it from there as its good grit.ansd the birdds love it.
Back garden fancier Posted October 7, 2007 Report Posted October 7, 2007 Pigeons have a gizzard, to grind food using grit because thay have no teeth. YES pigeons can survive without grit but give them a choice and they take what they need. If you don't give them grit they'll go off fielding. Grit is dirt cheap anyway ( no pun intended ) so why not give them it?
Fair Play Posted October 7, 2007 Report Posted October 7, 2007 Its true to say although you may not feed grit at home your birds will get it whenever it requires it. Sometime the birds on the shore pick up too much salt and bring it backup its amazing what they pick-up crop can be full of tiny whelks
DOVEScot Posted October 8, 2007 Report Posted October 8, 2007 Its true to say although you may not feed grit at home your birds will get it whenever it requires it. Sometime the birds on the shore pick up too much salt and bring it backup its amazing what they pick-up crop can be full of tiny whelks Cheeper than oysters ;D ;D ;D
THE FIFER Posted October 8, 2007 Report Posted October 8, 2007 Used to give mine cuttlefish of the beach they love it just wash it well before you give it to them yes rose u get some good grit from the shore, also has sopme charcoal in it which the birds love, like you give it a good rinse in fresh water, takes the salt out of it, i know sea salt is good for the birds but it could make them greedy and eat too much of the grit. you always see loads of racers down at the shore picking at the grit.
DOVEScot Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 yes rose u get some good grit from the shore, also has sopme charcoal in it which the birds love, like you give it a good rinse in fresh water, takes the salt out of it, i know sea salt is good for the birds but it could make them greedy and eat too much of the grit. you always see loads of racers down at the shore picking at the grit. I crush any sand stone that I get from a job and they love it
Guest slugmonkey Posted October 10, 2007 Report Posted October 10, 2007 I give 4 or 5 kinds of grit or pickstone and always add oystershell before breeding to help with shells !!! I use oyster, granite, crushed terra cotta flower pots, pickstone, and my birds still land in the road in front of house and pick up the sand there I definatly think they need it !!! and if they don't who cares it seems to make them happy !!!
chickadee Posted October 19, 2007 Author Report Posted October 19, 2007 I give 4 or 5 kinds of grit or pickstone and always add oystershell before breeding to help with shells !!! I use oyster, granite, crushed terra cotta flower pots, pickstone, and my birds still land in the road in front of house and pick up the sand there I definatly think they need it !!! and if they don't who cares it seems to make them happy !!! Our get grit, sandstone and plenty minerals yet they still seem to pick in the garden and sometimes underneath next doors car???
Guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Posted October 19, 2007 Our get grit, sandstone and plenty minerals yet they still seem to pick in the garden and sometimes underneath next doors car??? Guess that'll be that austaralian foster grit under the car, best pecked in the shade.
DOVEScot Posted October 19, 2007 Report Posted October 19, 2007 Guess that'll be that austaralian foster grit under the car, best pecked in the shade. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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