fanciers that take advantage

[Guest chrisss]

ive been given and bought birds from this site and ive been given birds from people off the roller site.... i  have now bred birds from the birds i have been given........ so i now see this as enough help for me as far as freebies go........ some people do seem to take the p*ss going round different sites giving sob storys and asking for birds but as soon as money is mentioned they dont want to know or make up excuses.............if you are genuinely struggling fair enough you will get help but dont con people because the people you are conning will not help anybody out in the future........

 

i too was given birds from guys on this site and brought some too,but to me there is no excuse to go around every site on the planet getting birds,apart from been greedy, in the end some one would be let down[the donor i mean]this is the sort of thing that stops the good guys from all sites from helping people out, i am not naming or accusing anyone as every story is different and the background to this one i do not know

[Guest mikkey]

tomo maybe i am wrong and if so i apologise but if you tell people you have no money then are still asking for birds on another site it looks dodgy.......SORRY i stuck my nose in...

[Guest strapper]

also adding to my last post, i have serious beliefs that someone who had bought birds off someones family(in wales) after the fancier had died, is selling them on here at times under a different breed and parentage/pedigree,(ring numbers in pics of parents etc) i cant name him because of limited proof so i shall be looking out in the future of his sales.

he sells on several sites.

 

i was offered these birds for free 3 cots full. as i was a very close friend,and could have taken advantage of them,but decided the family should have the benefit of these. and i was the one who actually helped in finding these birds new owners....im watching you!!

 

 

[Guest tomo68]

mate its not a problem i was asking if people had them then asking if they could keep hold of them if possible til i got sorted

[jimmy_84]

mate its not a problem i was asking if people had them then asking if they could keep hold of them if possible til i got sorted

 

tomo did me a good turn during the week he was coming to manchester from birmingham and i was struggling to get some supplies for my birds and he kindly offered to get the thing's i needed and would run them to me which he did at his own cost as i am about 15 miles away from where he was coming to in manchester

 

Thanx again tomo

[Pete M]

ive been given and bought birds from this site and ive been given birds from people off the roller site.... i  have now bred birds from the birds i have been given........ so i now see this as enough help for me as far as freebies go........ some people do seem to take the p*ss going round different sites giving sob storys and asking for birds but as soon as money is mentioned they dont want to know or make up excuses.............if you are genuinely struggling fair enough you will get help but dont con people because the people you are conning will not help anybody out in the future........

 

               Well said mickkey  I know what you mean

[Guest tomo68]

not a problem Jimmy mate anytime

[jimmy_84]

i have asked for bird's on several sites some i paid for and some were gifted to me and when i 1st started i got some fancy pigeons and then after a while i thought about getting racers so the birds i had gifted to me i rehomed free i had several racers and we suffered a hawk attack i picked myself up got a few more birds and the same thing happened i took the birds to exercise them a distance away with my mate released them and bam from no where a BOP attacked no birds returned to me so then i went back to roller's and yes i asked again for help and this time i recieved some PM's from people telling me this and that and my sob story wouldn't wash now although i have asked for birds i have and am willing to pay it is just that i couldn't afford to go out in 1 hit at the time and spend X amout on birds i am now in a better finacial situation although not a great deal of spare cash but i am saving what i can to purchase some youngbirds in 2009

[paul10121968]

i have been overwhelmed by other fanciers offers of young birds to get me started,i have not accepted any of the offers yet because my loft is still not completed,weather is holding things up terrible but you all know about that,i just want to say that i am truly greatful for the help that i have allready received,you know who you are.thanks again paul.

[ChrisMaidment08]

i withdraw all my comments on this post  concerning peaple missleading members as im upsetting peaple

[Guest bigda]

there are no need to apoligise to anyone chris we all know who is at fault here,  there are people and they know you know who  they are, and dont like  been cought out.

[Guest bigda]

  if you had too use a blow torch on there neck it would not turn red :o

[ChrisMaidment08]

trouble is you can pm webmaster and he will tell you off so bad men win or they can

[bewted]

chris,,,you dont need to withdraw any comments,,,,,if people are upset by them,then the trueth hurts !!!

 

you carry on with what you do or say,,,i for one enjoy what you write !!

[cottage lofts]

right for

1... we have 6 pair of stock birds and we cannot breed enough to fill the 2 lofts

2.... i am looking for pigeons genuinly ( not scamming off anyone )

 

i think chris as got the wrong end of the stick with me,  he offered me two next year from his van reets   but as the topic was for more than 2 i had to decline his offer ( bit of a no brainer really, why would i send for 2 @ £30 for amtrak + the price of the birds when i can send amtrak in for 6 and pay a bit extra + the price of the birds.

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

right for

1... we have 6 pair of stock birds and we cannot breed enough to fill the 2 lofts

2.... i am looking for pigeons genuinly ( not scamming off anyone )

 

i think chris as got the wrong end of the stick with me,  he offered me two next year from his van reets   but as the topic was for more than 2 i had to decline his offer ( bit of a no brainer really, why would i send for 2 @ £30 for amtrak + the price of the birds when i can send amtrak in for 6 and pay a bit extra + the price of the birds.

 

without boreing members my offer was vanloons   you want 50 for daughter   you can breed these youerself youer a good flyer as results show   in youer partnership  on other site you want birds freee or am i wrong if someone comes on wanting 50 birds for 5 year old that has father who forgot to metion partnership its odd that is what i picked up on if youer peying my apolergise   but missleading yesssssssssssssss

[Guest strapper]

50 seems a lot for a new starter.

[Guest racer]

well the wife lost 8 stock birds for me i have no old birds at all and i would just like to say thank you to rembrant2coo who offered me some late breds of which i declined as he was to far from me and that i only posted stock as missing incase anyone got them in not to recieve any birds as to date no stock have been reported and to me people who ask for birds are wasting there time because fanciers are not going to give good pigeons away thats just my oppinion and not ment to offend anyone

[Guest chrisss]

well the wife lost 8 stock birds for me i have no old birds at all and i would just like to say thank you to rembrant2coo who offered me some late breds of which i declined as he was to far from me and that i only posted stock as missing incase anyone got them in not to recieve any birds as to date no stock have been reported and to me people who ask for birds are wasting there time because fanciers are not going to give good pigeons away thats just my oppinion and not ment to offend anyone

 

fanciers on this site will give good pigeons away, a common mistake is to beleve that gift birds are rubbish[not all of the time anyway!!!!]your views should not offend anyone we are all allowed our views,but trust me on this one there are guys on here who will help out if they think/know you are "legit"

[nagid]

Agree 100% with chrisss gift birds will often be the best.there are a lot of good honest fanciers out there but sadly getting less all the time.far to many dealers out to make quick buck.how do we put a stop to it. > >

[BLACK W F]

some of the best birds i ever owned where gifted to me from friends of my father  one of the reasons i got their best was because i never raced against them as i was racing in an other area  

i was also taken to their lofts and offered to pick what i wanted them off  and advice on how to fly them

this was  30 years ago   plenty good birds given away free

[ChrisMaidment08]

some of the best birds i ever owned where gifted to me from friends of my father  one of the reasons i got their best was because i never raced against them as i was racing in an other area  

i was also taken to their lofts and offered to pick what i wanted them off  and advice on how to fly them

this was  30 years ago   plenty good birds given away free

 

telling me there is to decent honest peaple

[ChrisMaidment08]

gifted bird first nest 4 fed 12 fed had no more told me new starter   notttttttt

[Guest racer]

30 years ago fanciers would give you them not these days now all you get is NO youre racing in same fed as me that is why i say you need to go out of town for birds and to a small team fancier thats winning week in week out you have to nowadays  to beat your club m8's our club sec has won all but 2 races brilliant flying but same question to beat him you have to go out and buy everything cost more nowadays and thats why so many fanciers call it a day

[Guest chrisss]

30 years ago fanciers would give you them not these days now all you get is NO youre racing in same fed as me that is why i say you need to go out of town for birds and to a small team fancier thats winning week in week out you have to nowadays  to beat your club m8's our club sec has won all but 2 races brilliant flying but same question to beat him you have to go out and buy everything cost more nowadays and thats why so many fanciers call it a day

 

that is sad but true, i got birds from guys on this site, no one local would give/sell or loan birds , no one owed me a thing and as far as i am concerned "killing" them next year[the club] will be fitting, i only hope i can be as generous to some one, as total strangers were to me of this site