AMTRAK LICENCE REVOKED

[ChrisMaidment08]

think you might have to go to central point to collect your birds from now on

what about a haulage contractor like Eddie stobart

 

well he keeps pigeons perhaps he can supply vans drivers

[frank-123]

if you could get a national haulage company to drop at a central point then are picked up by a small courier company for the final leg of the journey

[Guest]

 

You must have an awful lot of faith in the rpra les they cant even sort out the problems we have already got let alone start up a courier service

YOU dont need faith in the RPRA [YOU TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT  AND THEY HAVE TO COMPLY ]by bringing it up at your agm then get the people that we pay to run our hobby to carry out our demands ,it is that simple.

 

 

[Mr Yorkie]

When have the RPRA ever have listened to the fanciers?  As the posting about the Peter Bryant implies its more do as they please.  They'll be more important things to discuss at the AGM like how much pension we should give Mr Bryant and the salary and what type of company car the new GM would like.....

[Guest]

not sure ,but if every member was to say at their club agm that this is what we want to do then the RPRA would have no choice but to comply with our wishes ,and provide us with a servise that is to our needs for the birds to get back to us .

[Guest]

When have the RPRA ever have listened to the fanciers?  As the posting about the Peter Bryant implies its more do as they please.  They'll be more important things to discuss at the AGM like how much pension we should give Mr Bryant and the salary and what type of company car the new GM would like.....

you got it wrong WE ARE THE RPRA ,NOT THEM THEY ARE EMPLOYED BY US  TO DO AS WE SAY .with out us they dont exist.

 

 

[Mr Yorkie]

I agree something needs doing but I doubt very much that every member would bring this up at their AGM.  Our AGM sees most fanciers keeping as quiet as possible for fear they will land themselves with a job.  Even if this was brought up we can't force the RPRA to do this; how many people have raised the issue about Blackpool money but nothing has got done.  

 

I'm also not convinced hat every fancier would be prepared to pay extra for this service on top of their Union subs.  This is after all historically and still for some 'a poor mans sport'.  Birdage prices keep going up with the price of fuel increasing and whilst farmers get pittance for their corn it doesn't stop the Corn merchants putting up their prices.  Charging another £30 would force some more fanciers out of our already dying sport.  Any Juniors who do race would be relying on their parents digging deeper in their pockets during this time of financial instability across the country.  Nice idea but I don't think really practical charging the fancier, perhaps another thing the Blackpool money could go towards....  

[Mr Yorkie]

[/quoteyou got it wrong WE ARE THE RPRA ,NOT THEM THEY ARE EMPLOYED BY US  TO DO AS WE SAY .with out us they dont exist.

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I don't think many people would agree with you Les...  When did the RPRA last take any notice of the humble fancier?  Read the post about the employment of the new GM... where was the consultation with the fancier then?  Sadly I think the RPRA will be the death of our sport....

[Guest]

if we can all stand together on this ,we can get our clubs to put in a letter stating if our wishes are not carried out we will all resign and start from scratch ,where would they be then .that is all it takes [sTICKING TOGETHER]

[Guest]

I agree something needs doing but I doubt very much that every member would bring this up at their AGM.  Our AGM sees most fanciers keeping as quiet as possible for fear they will land themselves with a job.  Even if this was brought up we can't force the RPRA to do this; how many people have raised the issue about Blackpool money but nothing has got done.  

 

I'm also not convinced hat every fancier would be prepared to pay extra for this service on top of their Union subs.  This is after all historically and still for some 'a poor mans sport'.  Birdage prices keep going up with the price of fuel increasing and whilst farmers get pittance for their corn it doesn't stop the Corn merchants putting up their prices.  Charging another £30 would force some more fanciers out of our already dying sport.  Any Juniors who do race would be relying on their parents digging deeper in their pockets during this time of financial instability across the country.  Nice idea but I don't think really practical charging the fancier, perhaps another thing the Blackpool money could go towards....  

then kiss good by to all you enjoy because it will end befor you think it will ,just wait and see .

 

 

[Diamond dave]

Many carriers are only regional concerns and they use the bigger carriers to do the main distance "corridoor" runs up and down the motorways. Then these bigger carriers don' t do the regional runs.

 

when i was a lad I seem to remeber we used the rail network - it wasn't door to door but that might be better in some ways. It would be down to you to deliver and collectb from your nearest station.

 

D.D.

[Guest]

you got it wrong WE ARE THE RPRA ,NOT THEM THEY ARE EMPLOYED BY US  TO DO AS WE SAY .with out us they dont exist.

 

these words were quoted to me by peter bryant in a conversation i had with him over this mater 2 years ago .

 

 

[Mr Yorkie]

And two years later you still believe it....

[ChrisMaidment08]

When have the RPRA ever have listened to the fanciers?  As the posting about the Peter Bryant implies its more do as they please.  They'll be more important things to discuss at the AGM like how much pension we should give Mr Bryant and the salary and what type of company car the new GM would like.....

 

i will stick my nose in here the rpra will not listen to fanciars  because noone pushes hard enough try complaining to confederation on this matter do as les says at youer agm insist sec writes on youer behalf that we want a stray service with over half a million in the bank we can afford it so insist

[Mr Yorkie]

I don't want to get into an argument with anyone so sorry if it appears that way.  I guess I'm seeing things from a young fanciers point of view and it frustrates me to think that in five or ten years we won't have a sport.  

[Turk]

let the rpra sow what they preach with there rules ,they should be telling fanciers ,we will get your strays back for you ,will they change there stance on claiming lost birds ,will the compulsory stamping go out the window ,if the rpra work for us ,now lets demand they help us get our birds back ,but then i some how think they will say there your responsibility and not ours

[Guest]

the fact of the mater is the RPRA are not a problem it is the fanciers them selves .i can prove this point , WHY DONT YOU ALL  phone the reddings up and ask to speek to peter bryant and ask him if the fancy want their own pigeon retreval service and they are willing to provide the money to do it will the RPRA have any reason not to get it sorted ,and see what the answer is ,IM GETING OUT OF THIS MATER NOW ,I CANT STAND DEFEATEST.[£30 just look at the £30 you have spent already geting your birds back ]it does not have to be £30 it was just a sugestion to show how mutch could be acheved  at that amount.ATB you are going to need it if nothing is done along these lines because some other company is going to come along and kill the hobby by puting up the price of retriving your birds ,think about it.[les]

[Mr Yorkie]

I didn't put in for the job as didn't want to move to Cheltenham but would have loved a shot at it!  Sorry again if anyone thinks I'm trying to pick a fight disagreeing with them, that's not my intention it's sheer frustration like many other fanciers have.

[Mr Yorkie]

Sorry Les, I didn't want to cause upset but personally don't see this as the way forward.  We're all entitled to our own opinions though and I respect you for your ambition and faith in the RPRA.

[Guest]

RPRA I GOT NO FAITH IN THEM NEVER HAD OR WILL HAVE [LIKE I SAID THEY ARE OUR EMPLOYES TO DO HAS WE SAY ]just seem that no one got the B***S  to make them comply .end of story.

[Turk]

the sad fact is if the rpra tried to levy many fanciers would be moaning i cannot afford etra monies to pay for a carrier service to get me birds back ,this is all ready seen in most cases of reporting stray pigeons ,they dont want them back at £30.00 ago.sad but true .try putting birdage up in most clubs by ten pence war breaks out threats start ,in my club theres only two of us that works full time ,rest are retired or umemployed ,mention prices going up and the tantrems start most clubs are like this ,i only want to race a few birds thats what  the rpra would be up against ,mention subs say to £50.00 a year everyone would pack it in .

[ChrisMaidment08]

im in picture of full councle you all never knew that did you left back

[ChrisMaidment08]

the sad fact is if the rpra tried to levy many fanciers would be moaning i cannot afford etra monies to pay for a carrier service to get me birds back ,this is all ready seen in most cases of reporting stray pigeons ,they dont want them back at £30.00 ago.sad but true .try putting birdage up in most clubs by ten pence war breaks out threats start ,in my club theres only two of us that works full time ,rest are retired or umemployed ,mention prices going up and the tantrems start most clubs are like this ,i only want to race a few birds thats what  the rpra would be up against ,mention subs say to £50.00 a year everyone would pack it in .

 

no they would not they just would not have so maney pints

[ChrisMaidment08]

i notice selby house was not advertised to let so again for the boys came to the fore or girls as the new tennant is

[Turk]

 

no they would not they just would not have so maney pints

 

i can assure you chris they would pack it in ,birdage costs for our channel races have risen or birdage 60 a short race same day ,no one sends to the long races ,normally im not paying that much to send me birds short race wins everytime ,the club entered not one bird to the longest race this year to costly