Roland Posted October 22, 2008 Report Posted October 22, 2008 Some comment of others, and some of mine. These are, to me, quite sensible, and I feel as a rule of a thumb good references. Karl of Alberta Classic to start with has to be of a very good base element.... If someone wanted to buy some of my best breeders, he would be out of luck, not because I am especially stingy but because real good breeders are very rare although there are millions of pedigrees with super performance pigeons in the ancestry. Then he states another nigh everyday gem... The good thing is that we know so little about pigeons, Jason. Think of what happened to "Sissy". Mike Ganus didn't want her, Ad Schaelaekens didn't want her, the Asian fancier didn't want her and gladly sent her back to Ad after he became convinced of her quality as a #1 breeder by a couple of her offspring. Another gem with a bit of relevance I believe is ... I would prefer to get these same birds as youngsters. Then I would be sure that the previous owner has not tried them at breeding and is selling them because they failed. Of course, it is also possible that these birds come from very large lofts and never did get a chance to show what they can do in the breeding compartment. I hope that the latter is the case. Me says, like the great Billy Taylor often quoted. The y/b's t that he says are culls, not up to it, buy quickly and obviously cheaply! These are the ones just behind each week! These have proved they have a good 'Homing Instinct' They have (Supposedly) been bred off birds that have done well, or from stock that he believed would stand him in good stead... otherwise he wouldn't have bought them! Further he must have felt at some time they would improve his loft, or his performances. So they have the 'Blood'! And if the answer is 'Sorry, if they aren't good enough for me, then they aren't good enough for anyone else' FORGET HIM! Just when and where did the faith go, the faith that first made him buy them in the first place? Often it is – I certainly believe – that it is the Grandchildren that are often the 'Kiddies' any way'. But don't get confused with the 'Seller' retrieving his outlay and passing on proven duds! Further, what of the nest mates, other birds of the same ilk that did perform well as y/b's. You know, regardless what most would have you believe, many good flyer has done well with a youngster that turned up and took to their loft! Their' parents WOULD have been Bought OR Brought in for that very purpose! Often think 'anyone that has a good looking stray that the owner wants shot of, If it's a Red or a Grizzle give me a shout! 6 pairs of a colours the neighbours will love. A real out cross, and 12 youngster to race through. I'd wager that at seasons end, They would do every bit as good as 95% of all pigeons do in the relevant season. It would be Red Grizzles, top of the list, then Grizzles and Reds. Now I'd like to say, that any improvement / motivation etc. that can be achieve is the same for a good bird as for a bad bird. So obviously the better the bird... AND above all the Managers ability is a must!
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