is there such a thing?

[jimmy white]

is there such a thing as a pure bred pigeon,, in the breeding sense??

[hotrod]

is there such a thing as a pure bred pigeon,, in the breeding sense??

i would say no jimmy , even a lot of old breeds have a bird here or there in the pedigree, joe 61 will probably say yes to this lol

 

 

[Smithy]

is there such a thing as a pure bred pigeon,, in the breeding sense??[/quote

 

No, definately not. Everything is diluted

[fletch]

no way and im sure i read once that all modern day breeds go back far enough all come down from 2 or 3 lines,,

[maverick]

is there such a thing as a pure bred pigeon,, in the breeding sense??

 

In what way do you mean pure bred or by name

[jimmy white]

we tend to term pigeons as a pure bred ,, whatever,, van this,,van that,, i beleive there is no such thing as a" pure bred pigeon" of any so-called strain

[frank1]

terms pure and strain:

 

The definition of pure according to my Webster's New World Dictionary is as follows: 1) free from anything that adulterates or taints; 2) unmixed; 3) of unmixed stock or pure-blooded; 4) that which is pure.

 

The definition of strain according to my self same dictionary is also as follows: 1) ancestry, lineage; 2) the descendants of a common ancestor; race; or stock line; 3) a line of individuals differentiated from its main species or race by certain generally superior qualities; 4) an inherited character or tendency.

 

Our working definition for a pure strain would, therefore, of necessity be as follows: An ancestry or lineage; the descendants of a common ancestor or stock line differentiated from its main species or race by generally superior qualities, inherited character, or tendency; unmixed, free from anything that adulterates or taints.

 

Now, if memory serves me correctly, the racing pigeon is the product of the mixing together of several different breeds of pigeons including Horseman, Dragoon, Smerle, the carrier pigeon, and others. In different countries, different pigeon breeds formed the base from which the fanciers worked to develop their homing pigeons to lesser or greater degrees of perfection-usually lesser. The modern racing pigeon is therefore a hybrid and therefore not a pure breed at all.

[jimmy white]

an excellent post frank1,, i believe fanciers are being led [sometimes un-intentionaly] in buying so-called pure breeds

 

a question asked by me to a well known top flier,about breeds ,,,,   for selling pure ,,,,,,for racing crossed  , think that speaks for itself  

[OLDYELLOW]

The closest i have ever come across is the Maurice Delbars of Steve Stoker's he bought alot direct from Maurice in the 1970's and early 80's and they were all that were used the only introductions were from friends with similar blood.

 

The biggest introduction i think Steve made was the children of 'Irish Mint'

 

Anyone who has any will probaly be able to verify that by all accounts all there pedigrees go back to the same pigeons such as Petit Bleu, Le Olympiad, Angoueleme etc etc.

 

Irish Mint was one of the birds most mentioned by the late Pete Bolton of Bridlington who flew the Delbars well up to winning 1st fed from 500 miles , i bought a daughter out of this grizzle hen in a sale , unfortunately was never informed of his death as i would of bought a few of the birds from his loft , i often went to visit him prior to his death , he was a chacitor who i will miss

[Guest shadow]

No because even in belgium breeders used to swop or borrow winning birds from each other years ago 8)

[Guest youngzimmy]

ROCK DOVES!!!

[jimmy white]

No because even in belgium breeders used to swop or borrow winning birds from each other years ago 8)

 

this is very true,,they still do,,  and in my opinion is  the best way,, winners to winners at your particular distance ,,irrespective of so-called breeds ,,