Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 50+ birds, a small flyer like my self 12 to 15 o/birds
DUBLINFLYER Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 50+ birds, a small flyer like my self 12 to 15 o/birds i know lads that won nationals only sending 4- 8.... and opens only send 2 so i dnt worry bout anyone elses birds just our own... we'll have 38 old birds to race hopefully thats if training goes well... we could have a couple of casualties who knows, please god we wont
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 8)a friend of mine withe 40 yrs racing cant wait for it(ets),when i asked him why he said there will be no stress on the birds having to handling them all the time,witch i think is crap!because he has being catching them and handling them for the last 40 yrs ,wich i think is a sad esscuse (soz bad spelling) 8)
DUBLINFLYER Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 8)a friend of mine withe 40 yrs racing cant wait for it(ets),when i asked him why he said there will be no stress on the birds having to handling them all the time,witch i think is crap!because he has being catching them and handling them for the last 40 yrs ,wich i think is a sad esscuse (soz bad spelling) 8) its called progress are you for ets?
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 a lad in our club will ave at least 50 old birds to race his young birds team are between 120-150 paire race last season on the last race on the young birds he still had 40 young birds tat did not get raced but got trained. he is the futhers flyer in the club we have a radious of 2 miles from the club in a southeast wind he wont be beatin in a blow home wit the ets how can a small flyer complete with tat 8) 8)
DUBLINFLYER Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 a lad in our club will ave at least 50 old birds to race his young birds team are between 120-150 paire race last season on the last race on the young birds he still had 40 young birds tat did not get raced but got trained. he is the futhers flyer in the club we have a radious of 2 miles from the club in a southeast wind he wont be beatin in a blow home wit the ets how can a small flyer complete with tat 8) 8) so i take it your anti ets? ah well its in now ;D
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 can you answer me this why was ets brough out was it to help with disaible flyers to complete aganist able body flyers?? if so are we not taken the avatage away from the disaible flyer for our self's and puttin the disabile fyler bk wre he was first place not on leavel terms wit able body flyers jus my opion 8) 8)
DUBLINFLYER Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 can you answer me this why was ets brough out was it to help with disaible flyers to complete aganist able body flyers?? if so are we not taken the avatage away from the disaible flyer for our self's and puttin the disabile fyler bk wre he was first place not on leavel terms wit able body flyers jus my opion 8) 8) listen we could go on and on and on.... end of the day its in... doesn't matter why it was brought in, its a timing device that will cut down time an hassel in the loft in the club... no more lads being disqualified for wrong digits or letters... its hassel free ask anto how easy it is he was at the unikorn demo yesterday... anto would love your opinion :
OLDYELLOW Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 can you answer me this why was ets brough out was it to help with disaible flyers to complete aganist able body flyers?? if so are we not taken the avatage away from the disaible flyer for our self's and puttin the disabile fyler bk wre he was first place not on leavel terms wit able body flyers jus my opion 8) 8) you could look at it from the birds point of view , better not to be handled when returned to be clock shy next race
DUBLINFLYER Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 you could look at it from the birds point of view , better not to be handled when returned to be clock shy next race at last common sense thanks old yellow
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 i have givein anto my opinion and it is my only opinion, you stil havent answered my first question dose it fav the mob flyer?? second question you didnt answer dose it take the avatage away from the disabile flyer?? give us your opinion p.s it is hard to clock brids when your spend time in a wheelchair and no one to do it for you but thank god no longer need chair 8) 8)
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 what is your take on it oldyellow dose it take the avatage of the disabile flyer and give it bk to the able body flyer?? 8)
DUBLINFLYER Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 i have givein anto my opinion and it is my only opinion, you stil havent answered my first question dose it fav the mob flyer?? second question you didnt answer dose it take the avatage away from the disabile flyer?? give us your opinion p.s it is hard to clock brids when your spend time in a wheelchair and no one to do it for you but thank god no longer need chair 8) 8) 1st question no 2nd question no hope this helps ;D
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 i accept your opinion everyone has there own its jus alot of sad esscuse <(bad spellin) from flyers who have birds and are raceing to 30 yrs + who is maken money here?? in 5 yrs + time if a other new styeam cums out will it be more essucse better den ets jus more money this sport is not for kid's anymore onl for my son's i would have never got bk into birds known wat i already know now its gone to expensive its not a workin man sport anymore jus my opinion.. 8) 8)
Merlin Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 Got nothing against E.T.S. being used,it does favour so called mob flyer's,those who are interested in taking all pos in Club + if opportunity presents itself,would agree as regards handling birds immediately re race,and fanciers who are working/absent.after that it does nothing beneficial for the Sport,and will probably be a nail in the coffin in what is already a dwindling sport ,member wise, because as for bringing in new youth /members of which this Sport needs if its not to go the way of the dodo,its another handicap,but at least it was democratically introduced,use it if you wish,or continue with conventional clocks,just talking for my own set up,imagine a stall trap is just as fast for clocking the birds that matter,i.e. first bird,and pool bird,but as for Sport in general,it help create more problems,than it will fix . J.M.O.
gangster Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 if there are a few after buying ets if you all go together you maybe can get a good deal in bulk..ie free rings ect......as i feel that unikon ect owe you guys the same deal as thr uk flyers got 20 free rings .......
gangster Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 and im still of the opinion if you were behind on t3s ets aint gonna speed your birds up any.....you have 2 get them home 1st.....
gangster Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 and as for people taking all the positions then its up 2 each club how they draw up there rules...
just ask me Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 simple ure fist 3 birds takes club postions and all birds clocked goes for fed or national result as at least the fed and national result should be a true result pigeon game is by far fair any way with loft locations i think in bigger clubs there should be a league systems present as it fair that a new comer comes in and has to play with the big boys :-/
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 we only have 14 members 2allready talking about jacking in if we try bring in a rule that the first 3 bidrs takes the club postions the sh** would hit the fan and more lads would go ,is this the start of the end for small clubs
Guest anto Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 we only have 14 members 2allready talking about jacking in if we try bring in a rule that the first 3 bidrs takes the club postions the sh** would hit the fan and more lads would go ,is this the start of the end for small clubs i hope not dub the fed is bad enough already i hope it dosent get any worst anyone i spoke 2 today is thinking positive about ets and willing 2 give it a go
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 I hope your right m8 the fed is as yousay bad enough already no one coming in and every one getting older
Guest Paulo Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 At least you have had a vote about it in Ireland the NEHU just railroaded it in same as the RPRA lot
Guest gladdo Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 first of all yeas its being voted in as anto said ... 2 nd its very expensive when we did vote i honestly can say i voted for it as its coming in anyways so would rather it plus the fact ive built a new loft and bought 2 ets traps in blackpool off petron for the ets system ,,, i was going to have to go in after them if it was not passed ...however i would have liked them never to get it as its bad ...i see some people s posts on here that club has got them ...now i spoke to someone out of club yesterday and was told system £399 stg and if all get same system ( well say at least most of them we get it for £389 stg ) well i tell you its not right ...my mate is young lad he has just joined and i fear for the sport .. fees went up aswell for the transporter fees ...its costing this young lad £490 euro without ets etc so come on think about this one ... its not right ... to me is the the sport really interested in the future with young kids joining i dont think so if im honest .... i think 2 members in our club also quitting ... ok i also mention this ...lads that had chance of getting a place here and there will have no chance now as if say flier a gets 5 back together or say 3 he has to clock them ...that takes time ... now he just sit back and take all the positions so easily ...not even have to be there ,.... im against it but knew it was coming in and have no choice against it ... ah well ill be staying in sport and i hope my words are wrong but its going to be very tough for all .....except also the people that fly 150 youngsters ... there are some at least 100 and i tell you they should concentrate on bird limits i think not this clocking system .... maybe im wrong but im honest ... and lad admitted that flies at least a hundred and he has another 100 2 nd rounders for back up ....there you go ....mikey
Guest Dublin lofts Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 who a how will the south road fed inforce the rules for ets, will they go out and check to make sure pad's are in the right palces i dont think so when they could not even do a rambon test for something else the dublin lads will kno wat i mean.. 8) 8)
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