FUTURE BREEDING

[jack]

in two to three years when every one is on the E.T.S System

wourld wide

do you think the rings will go up and pervent people from breeding big teams

[pjc]

hopefully when the majority are on ets the rings will be intergrated and the overall cost will be reduced, i.e 25p union ring and £1.10 ets ring currently, combined ring would prob be around 75p!

[Novice]

I feel that the ETS rings should have initially sold through the Unions. That would allow them to not only regulate the price but also keep a small portion of the revenue.

 

This was a big mistake when the system was introduced.

[OLDYELLOW]

spot on pjc no reason why they can intigrate now  

[OLDYELLOW]

I feel that the ETS rings should have initially sold through the Unions. That would allow them to not only regulate the price but also keep a small portion of the revenue.

 

This was a big mistake when the system was introduced.

 

i think even more would of rebeled at the system been brought in if that was the case at least we all have the choice of which system we wish to use  

[Guest]

I believe the price of the rings will soar,but a more worrying issue is will there be a charge for endless updates. :-/ :-/

[jack]

i just think when they cant sell anymore systems

the only way they can get money out of us is  the rings

[OLDYELLOW]

i just think when they cant sell anymore systems

the only way they can get money out of us is  the rings

 

they wouldnt need to employ as many people to produce the rings    but the greatest fear is they bring newer systems out and make the current ones obsolete by discontinuing the rings  

[pjc]

the world didn't stop when everybody got a clock so why should it when everybody has ets? There will be new models etc which members will continue to buy wanting the lattest available.

 

Phil

[Guest IB]

I don't think ETS will have any affect on the numbers bred.

[Guest]

 

they wouldnt need to employ as many people to produce the rings    but the greatest fear is they bring newer systems out and make the current ones obsolete by discontinuing the rings  

 

Spot on for a change Oldyellow. ;D ;D.If you take a look how technology has advanced over the years, whether its computers,or any other technological product, change is inevitable and the consumer will pay the price for advancement.

So beware and be prepared to PAY. :-/ :-/ :-/

[hotrod]

in two to three years when every one is on the E.T.S System

wourld wide

do you think the rings will go up and pervent people from breeding big teams

i would'nt bet on that , 2/3years everyboby is on ets , your having a laugh ,most and i mean most who have it have only got it because they got it for nowt, i for one will be happy with my antiquated t3  ;)and im not anti ets .

 

 

[Guest]

I have a brand new Unikon system that i got for free from my club,and while i don't discriminate anyone who chooses to use it.Its not for me,it wont help me win a race and i also believe instead of this being the future,more of these systems will end up in the bin and most will revert to conventional clocks.The futures bright ;) ;D

[OLDYELLOW]

I have a brand new Unikon system that i got for free from my club,and while i don't discriminate anyone who chooses to use it.Its not for me,it wont help me win a race and i also believe instead of this being the future,more of these systems will end up in the bin and most will revert to conventional clocks.The futures bright ;) ;D

 

i can't see them going in the bin , but i can se the demand for rubber rings declining and they go out of buisness if no market for there produce

[Guest karl adams]

it wont belong before they bring out an ets system with a tracking device so u can see were your birds are on their way back home

[Guest]

 

i can't see them going in the bin , but i can se the demand for rubber rings declining and they go out of buisness if no market for there produce

 

The ones on the market at the moment will become outdated.How much will you pay every 2 years for a new improved system.£450 every 2 years i dont think so.T3 £100 end of.

 

[Guest]

I do believe there is a element of the fancy that actually believes that ets will improve their results.If your crap you are crap a timming system will not improve your results. :-/ :-/ ;D

[OLDYELLOW]

 

The ones on the market at the moment will become outdated.How much will you pay every 2 years for a new improved system.£450 every 2 years i dont think so.T3 £100 end of.

 

no more rubbers would see the end of the t3s in time , if they aint selling rubbers for racing im sure they'll shut shop cant run a buisness at a loss thats for certain , then where would it leave the t3's

[OLDYELLOW]

I do believe there is a element of the fancy that actually believes that ets will improve their results.If your crap you are crap a timming system will not improve your results. :-/ :-/ ;D

 

it will improve results for a few whilst others are thumbling about loft getting rubber of first bird ets will have clocked 6 birds , others see first been grabbed and dont want to come in week after bird that was manualy  clocked sits out not wanting to under go same prodedure after last race so guess im one that believes it can improve the effectiveness of trapping seconds cost races but yes you have to get them home first no mater what clock you use , and there will be just as many winners clocked on manual cocks  

[Novice]

 

i think even more would of rebeled at the system been brought in if that was the case at least we all have the choice of which system we wish to use  

 

 

Not at all the choice would always have been there. The Unions were much to anxious to introduce the system through the back door and as a result missed the opportunity to give some of the profit back to the fancy.

Yet another example of mismanagement.

 

[Novice]

Many fanciers introduced this system to give them an advantage in short races. Now most fanciers are buying to catchup on the originals. For me it's simpler than that. I just won't pool in early races so they won't have any of my money.

 

ETS companies are like Gillette---they would gladly give you a razor free because they make their money from selling blades. Oh for some foresight in our governing bodies.

[Merlin]

Too true Novice,its the commercialism that's involved here,and you can bet its only going to get dearer,by whatever means these bodies choose,what an opportunity missed by governing bodies,they should be supplying ,when needed E,T.S. System/rings/etc,and dealing with Manufacturer/s cutting out middle men,sadly they didn't,now all are at mercy of commercial interests for foreseeable future

[Guest Paulo]

I reckon we'll see a bit of price fixing of rings when it comes in

[OLDYELLOW]

 

 

Not at all the choice would always have been there. The Unions were much to anxious to introduce the system through the back door and as a result missed the opportunity to give some of the profit back to the fancy.

Yet another example of mismanagement.

 

If they were to take a cut in the profit of the ring sales they would have gone with the company that offered the most lucrative deal and thus cutting the others ets systems out of the markets enforing the passing of one system for all , after all not all ets rings are compatable thats why you buy from them from the manifacturer of the machine you use not for any ets manifacturer

[hotrod]

Too true Novice,its the commercialism that's involved here,and you can bet its only going to get dearer,by whatever means these bodies choose,what an opportunity missed by governing bodies,they should be supplying ,when needed E,T.S. System/rings/etc,and dealing with Manufacturer/s cutting out middle men,sadly they didn't,now all are at mercy of commercial interests for foreseeable future

too true and these                 (commercial interests) are voting on their interests at meetings and lining their pockets into the bargan,when all these things gt passed.