Rooftop

[mark proctor]

if i stay on there any longer ill end up smashing my pc up its driving  me nuts keep cutting me off then getting error after error bonkers it is

 

lol...nice one tell...i did smash mine the other day...only the flat screen moniter...so pigeon chat ow me another one now....its there fault..lol.. ;D ;D

[pjc]

we all live and learn buts its always easy to look everywhere but under you nose for a reason!

[mark proctor]

What are you saying Mark, is it that your YBs are wary of flying down to the loft after they have landed on the roof.

If thats what your saying, keeping them off your roof will only make them land further down the road, the problem is the loft landing area. Is it the top of the loft or a sputnik/ landing board on the front.

If you have allowed them to spend time on the roof then that becomes home as much as the loft itself.  If not, then you are right it is a problem within the loft area.

 

yes your right mick..spot on mate...its my fault for letting them on the roof in the first place as squeekers...i just couldnt get them of the roof..even with hunger...so like you said its there home now and im paying the price....its just anoying they race home on a race day ..but why if there not going to come in there loft....puzzels me mate...tried splitting them apart from each other...and still the same...but some times from training ..i carnt fault them ..strait home and all in in seconds... :-/ :-/ :-/

[van Roberts]

hello white racer the best way to stop youngsters going on the roof is to throw eggs on the roof but dont let the youngsters see you. it will stop them after a couple of days

[bewted]

pjc,, i see were your comming from mate but i think theres more than that...some things upsettng them..when they fly over the house they seem to twich every time there above my loft..in the same place every time...might be some thing in the night...foxes ...cats ...i dont no mate but if it carries on were moveing next year,.... :( :( :(ive only lived ere 1 year..and havent weighed it up yet mate.... :(

 

try putting cameras up and see if you can spot the problem,,just a suggestion !!!

[mark proctor]

thanks for your coments lads...some good ideas there..thanks...got to get some thing sorted for next year thou cos im flogging a dead horse other wise... > > >:(i did try scaring them of as babies but all they did is go further down the road...in the end they was landing right at the end of the street...25 houses away and thats no lie...i ended running up and down the street like a mad man...i bet my new neibours thought i was round the bend...in the end i scared them that much i ended up with ybs..followed by e colli....ended up killing 18 of them... :( :( :(its all wrote down for next year so i dont make the same mistake....all the best lads mark..

[schouwman71]

yes mate im having the same trouble...had 5 races all bad traps...cost me alot of money... > > > > > doesnt matter how much i starve them they still hit the same part of the roof on race days.....think its time for a house move....

 

since been in the house i have have,ive lost about 8x1sts prizes and thats with mostly flying youngsters,dont have much proplems with thewidowers but they have still cost me a 1st sometimes has they land on the house before dropping down.

 

les

[Guest IB]

Good to see you are getting to the root cause of your YBs roof topping. Now that I know that the basic reason for them doing so is that they have had a bad fright not once but several times, from you flagging them, I do not think that my previous advice of lobbing a ball on the roof is the right way to solve this case.

 

Basically you have to restore the birds confidence in you, and in their home. Think that will take encouragement, kindness and a lot of work and patience on your part, during the 'close' period, but you should have some help from your OBs which hopefully drop straight to the loft, and the YBs should take a cue from that, and overcome their 'innate' fear.

 

Personally I do not agree with flagging as you are basically stopping the bird landing on the loft. YBs should also be flying for the sheer joy of it, they should be ranging freely for miles, not flying in circles round the houses.

 

I remember well the job I had many moons ago to stop my dad's pigeons landing on our house roof, and succeeded in getting them to drop to the landing board, only to have my work undone a few years later when he started flagging them and chasing them when they landed or tried to land on the loft - and they ended up roofing, not just on ours, but on all our neighbours too.

[Roland]

You know, this may well be a case for a topic of Myths.

Blimey just where does it matter where a birds sits? As long as it's contented to do so how can there be a down side? Indeed surely the very opposite may well apply. It is all part of the very basic importants of birds being happy. Never mind, water balloons and pink balls, flipping sure I wouldn't wanr some one soaking me and then smacking a  pick ball aside my head. Besides mostly they just move to another roof - neighbours usually of course - and stay out.

What does oit matter as long as they want to HOME! And contented birds want to home, and want in, so trap naturally quick. If they don't, then they didn't want home on the day as much as others, and would be behind any way! Well 98% of the time.

Mind had a cat around Thursday last. Left on roof all night. Next moening queing up to get in.

Left in for a day or so and out. Flew well and trapped ok.

[terry mccarthy]

i let my babys sit on the roof for 2 weeks wen flittering about after that they get the water ballon treatment my birds wouldnt dream of going anywere near my roof now  if they did that would be there last time they did it only takes 1 to start them all off

[chichichi]

we use a slingshot and potatoes... only a few times and they stop...

 

goodluck

 

ant

[Guest]

dont think there is allot you can do about it at my last loft loc my loft faced the house and i went through the nightmare of chasing them from roof to roof tried the short of food thing didnt work along with a hundred other things its simply the loft loc to the roof its the easist place to land but try to get the feeding right so when they land call them in right away and lock them down for a couple of hrs by the way it cost me lots of 1st places as well but i want to go to distance races so have to watch the short of feeding bit i moved over here 2 years ago and to my surprise my birds dont go near the roofs hey presto 8x1st 5x2nd 8x3rd this year iam loving it

[mark proctor]

cheers terry...cheers ant....good threads thats what i need to encourage me...not like the idiot who said let them sit on the house roof cos there happy...load of bollocks....do he think im waisting alot of money racing ..feeding..traning them for them to come home on a sat to win and sit laughing at me shouting come on come on like a f.....g clown.. > > > >:(dont think so....sorry for thats lads that have put good advice to this thread it just pisses me of when some one jumps on you like that... > > > >

[bewted]

cheers terry...cheers ant....good threads thats what i need to encourage me...not like the idiot who said let them sit on the house roof cos there happy...load of bollocks....do he think im waisting alot of money racing ..feeding..traning them for them to come home on a sat to win and sit laughing at me shouting come on come on like a f.....g clown.. > > > >:(dont think so....sorry for thats lads that have put good advice to this thread it just pisses me of when some one jumps on you like that... > > > >

 

i know that feeling too well mark as regards the idiot !!!!!

[mark proctor]

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[Lennut Tar]

hello white racer the best way to stop youngsters going on the roof is to throw eggs on the roof but dont let the youngsters see you. it will stop them after a couple of days

 

Well !!!!!!!!! what can I really say  ;D ;D ;D I just couldn't afford to buy all the eggs required at my place etc. Mine are tree hoppers  :'( :'( :'(. Tennis ball on a string type thing is my suggesting (much cheaper) & it works just fine. Then again ???????? 10 hours into a head wind, usaully gets them down & in pretty quick   ;) .

Enjoy.

 

 

[paullock]

Hi Whiteracer,

 

I am a novice flyer, I have been racing pigeons for 3 seasons, my old birds all land on my house roof before progressing into the loft, this is my fault as I did not know how to stop them.

this year i have cracked the art of keeping the young birds off the house roof but I am afraid

that it starts from the first time they leave the loft, keep them hungry when letting them out for the first few months, first two weeks let them hop out and stay with them to watch out for cats/hawks etc, get them back in with a whistle or shake a tin of seed,then third week scare them up, they will go all over the place but this will give them the idea of flying hungry and they will stayup for up to a hour sometimes less,  if they dont go straight into the loft when calling in cut back the feed its that simple.

 

Hope this helps it works for me.

 

Paul.

[van Roberts]

well lennut tar dont buy your eggs you must have plenty of spare pigeon eggs? you dont let hatch you only need couple of eggs to keep them off roof. throw one egg up then just at right time throw dropper pigeon on loft they soon get the  message plus it saves getting all your string caught up in them trees ;D ;D

[Guest chrisss]

there is no way i would get away with throwing eggs up at the roof around my way,in the end all i did was use a big dustbin bag tied to a large pole [twice thats all it took]most took the hint 3 did not, they moved 3 roofs down[they have now sadly gone]there is not easy reply to this one, what works for one would not work for another[that i have learned the hard way applies to everything pigeon related ;D ;D ;D ;D]they still go on to the roof but only on the way in [i am surrounded by trees]