Guest strapper Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Sorry didn't mean to insult you. Tell me how do you manage to ring the youngsters? Do you employ Fred Dibner to do it for you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Cheap grub as well that way bob he,d have a job to employ fred dibner he,s no longer with us....but good answer that ;D ;D ;D that bloke was a hero...hard working and living the life of danger all the time. just like me ;D ;D ;D 8)
Guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 I'm SORRY, I realised that Fred was no longer with us after I posted and couldn't edit it. Yes Fred was one of the best, a true hero.
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 Hey Joe, don't make it bad. Take a sad song and make it better. Remember to let me into your heart, Then you can start to make it better. When you gonna offer to bread an ol' timer, like you, a few young 'uns do you want a few young ones...... i have to chat with my son mate, or you could, timbarra lofts uk oh happy days to you all.
john@formula 1 lofts Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 What makes me wonder is people moan about people selling old birds that are no good (which i totally agree with) but who buys these birds is what i would like to know because i would not buy old birds unless it was a entire clearence sale and a genuine one at that or i new the person and reason the birds were for sale. As who in there right mind would sell a good old bird. we have the policy we do not sell old bird's that has been bred from and we do not buy old birds unless we know all about the birds and there is a very good reason why they are for sale. which is not often. Buy a kit of y/b's and find your own stock team from them over 2 or 3 years is a lot more likely way to the top in my eyes John
Guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 do you want a few young ones...... i have to chat with my son mate, or you could, timbarra lofts uk oh happy days to you all. Sent you a pm Joe
just ask me Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 What makes me wonder is people moan about people selling old birds that are no good (which i totally agree with) but who buys these birds is what i would like to know because i would not buy old birds unless it was a entire clearence sale and a genuine one at that or i new the person and reason the birds were for sale. As who in there right mind would sell a good old bird. we have the policy we do not sell old bird's that has been bred from and we do not buy old birds unless we know all about the birds and there is a very good reason why they are for sale. which is not often. Buy a kit of y/b's and find your own stock team from them over 2 or 3 years is a lot more likely way to the top in my eyes John have said this hear lots when u buy young birds u are buying untested stock so the owner doesent know how good or bad they are that the chance that u take i know id rather take a chance on young than old great post john
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 john at formula1 with all due respect mate you say you dont sell old birds well i think you would if the price was right as we all would every one has their price in all walks of life and pigeons are no different
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 john at formula1 with all due respect mate you say you dont sell old birds well i think you would if the price was right as we all would every one has their price in all walks of life and pigeons are no different oh happy days
BLACK W F Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Joe i think you are wrong selling birds that are either not winners or breeders of winners just because the price is right is killing the sport if they do not perform no matter what you pay for them there is only one place for them and thats the bucket you say every one has there price you might have but i certainly would not sell on they would go in the BUCKET where the rubbish should cheers Alan
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 Joe i think you are wrong selling birds that are either not winners or breeders of winners just because the price is right is killing the sport if they do not perform no matter what you pay for them there is only one place for them and thats the bucket you say every one has there price you might have but i certainly would not sell on they would go in the BUCKET where the rubbish should cheers Alan nearly all our birds all 23 pairs have bred winners and fed winners at that, and we do not sell old birds unless asked for, we can tell a good pigeon , Paulo nunes of portugal asked for 2 yearlings for stock, we sent 2 to portugal, in their first year breeding they both bred winners with upto 5000 birds competeing, and help make him , middle distance young bird champion of Lisbon.. i rest my case. its in the blood. as for formula one lofts... when did this turn into a debate about you selling pigeons ?? oh happy days..
BLACK W F Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Joe thats fantastic results all 23 pair producing fed winners would you please name them in this country who they are winning for you say you do not sell o/b what happened to the DE drobblers also i seen you offer other o/bs unless i am mixed up have a nice night cheers Alan
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 Joe thats fantastic results all 23 pair producing fed winners would you please name them in this country who they are winning for you say you do not sell o/b what happened to the DE drobblers also i seen you offer other o/bs unless i am mixed up have a nice night cheers Alan whats that suppose to mean, we do sell o/b , not just any old birds... we sell old birds that we know will breed winners. and whats your problem. do you know me no , do you ever need to know me, no remain in your little life in your little world. god bwf your sad , you try to hound me everytime i post, get a life mate, because yours is passing you buy.. keep your hair on. blood presure to high. jealous cock. oh happy very happy days. oh and i said nearly all .. or is your reading as bad as your grammar lol
BLACK W F Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 i Joe tell the truth £500 for a pair of VAN GESTREL could not sell them untill droped price to£75 each they where old birds name the guys in this country who are topping feds with your birds lol laugh that one off laughing boy the truth hurts cheers Alan
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 alan would you kindly give me your surname. oh happy days
Guest rodders Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 well i bought some of these latebreds and i wouldnt call them old birds as only just mature enuff to sex so not what i would call old birds
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 come on alan whats your name.......... did you
john@formula 1 lofts Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Joe61- I will answer both of your posts. question 1 would i sell if the price is right? the answer is no no and no i would not i have turned down 4 figure sums for my birds and i have put very well bred birds in the bin that i have paid over a £1000 for and could easy have sold and got my money back on, but that is not my style. Question 2 when did the thread come about me selling birds i did not think it had on various posts people had mentioned putting birds etc in the bin that were no good and about no good old birds being sold on etc. and i was just adding a input at i thought this was the idea of a forum talking things through and offering advice etc. P.S i am not sure who you are but if you have 23 pair and Nearly all are breeding fed winners i would be intrested to hear about your birds and system mate because that is very good breeding by anyone standards. how many stock birds did you start with to select to this number etc. Thanks in advance John
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 waiting mate .... my mate alan ... oh happy days
Guest strapper Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 calm it down lads, this is supposed to be a friendly chat, lets get back to what the title states...lets not make it personal amongst us :)
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 Joe61- I will answer both of your posts. question 1 would i sell if the price is right? the answer is no no and no i would not i have turned down 4 figure sums for my birds and i have put very well bred birds in the bin that i have paid over a £1000 for and could easy have sold and got my money back on, but that is not my style. Question 2 when did the thread come about me selling birds i did not think it had on various posts people had mentioned putting birds etc in the bin that were no good and about no good old birds being sold on etc. and i was just adding a input at i thought this was the idea of a forum talking things through and offering advice etc. P.S i am not sure who you are but if you have 23 pair and Nearly all are breeding fed winners i would be intrested to hear about your birds and system mate because that is very good breeding by anyone standards. how many stock birds did you start with to select to this number etc. Thanks in advance John John , i do not wish to argue with you , your opinions are valid ones, i repspect them, but we have 23 pair nearly all breeding winners, those that do not go in the bin as you do your own, i have bought pigeons from Herman Beverdam, G & R Schalkwijk, John Kirk and Karel Meuleman, i do not buy from anyone else as i only have one colony of birds. They are proven by me or others who owned these pigeons before me, as i have bought them from them , or will be proven by others who may buy them, but i am happy never to sell pigeons, i not in the game for selling , i do it because my son is VDB crazy and will only ever have the best of this family. thanks regards joe i am not going to get drawn into a insults or muscle flexing match with anyone here,. ;D ;D oh happy days
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 yeah i know mate, let me talk to my son to see what we can do for you.. oh happy days
Guest spin cycle Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 calm it down lads, this is supposed to be a friendly chat, lets get back to what the title states...lets not make it personal amongst us :) good idea
john@formula 1 lofts Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 John , i do not wish to argue with you , your opinions are valid ones, i repspect them, but we have 23 pair nearly all breeding winners, those that do not go in the bin as you do your own, i have bought pigeons from Herman Beverdam, G & R Schalkwijk, John Kirk and Karel Meuleman, i do not buy from anyone else as i only have one colony of birds. They are proven by me or others who owned these pigeons before me, as i have bought them from them , or will be proven by others who may buy them, but i am happy never to sell pigeons, i not in the game for selling , i do it because my son is VDB crazy and will only ever have the best of this family. Thanks mate thanks regards joe i am not going to get drawn into a insults or muscle flexing match with anyone here,. ;D ;D oh happy days Thanks mate
OLDYELLOW Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 i know of certain guys who use this method of partnering dutch flyers and they not even that good to be honest, they then spout their names and their birds from the roof tops. i do have several foriegn rung breeders in my loft but all ..yes all have bred winners and i dont sell foriegn birds to anyone. i will sell youngsters at fraction of there true value, cheaper than those who originate from. but i think on here especially some spout forign names to much in selling their stock, i mean only a while ago 200 pigeons from a dutch one loft race were offered on here... and those birds were placed 201-400 , so where did the first 200 placed pigeons go.? well no they offered the rubbish to the british market. oh happy days, maybe i got a member on my head .. but i love the feel of it ;D ;D how can you possible measure the worth of a pigeon on a yb season ? the so called rubbish that was not in the top 200 , could quite easily be surpassed by any of the other pigeons sold if continued as yearlings and 2 year olds , as anyone knows not all good young birds make good old birds
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