/ SO WHEN IS A FED NOT A FED

[edwards]

OK  so how many clubs do u think should  be in a federation , do u think there should be  a limit that u cant go below , ive heard that some feds only have 4 clubs competing in them   only my view but i think a fed should have a lot more  clubs in them than 4 ,,  u see these results put up  20 1st feds , 30 1st feds  but how many clubs  and birds are they beating ,     now the NIPA   25000 + BIRDS A WEEK  thats what i call a fed ,

that 25000 birds is not every week plus its broke into sections mate is it not iv nerver seeing some in the nipa top a fed with 25,000 birds

 

 

[fred smyth]

that 25000 birds is not every week plus its broke into sections mate is it not iv nerver seeing some in the nipa top a fed with 25,000 birds

 

 

i no it has sections ,, i dont no what ur last bit in post means

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Ron Williamson (Bondhill Soc)

won 1st Open NIPA Pilmore Beach

(1) with 27,039 birds competing

[Guest JPH]

that 25000 birds is not every week plus its broke into sections mate is it not iv nerver seeing some in the nipa top a fed with 25,000 birds

 

your right edwards the nipa is made up of loads of feds and combines.

 

as i said fanciers can only win in the fed they can fly in and i dont think there 1st are any less earned.  Some of these fanciers winning i the small feds could easily win in some of the larger ones and i dont think fred has any right to judge this. ;)

 

 

[edwards]

 

i no it has sections ,, i dont no what ur last bit in post means

it means that the number of birds that go up there are not belong to one fed the have there own sections which are like different feds in there own right and when the nipa get numbers like that its mostly national and opens mate correct me if im wrong mate but i think thats the way it works like the south have a few different feds but when there combined savaged birdage?

 

[fred smyth]

your right edwards the nipa is made up of loads of feds and combines.

 

as i said fanciers can only win in the fed they can fly in and i dont think there 1st are any less earned.  Some of these fanciers winning i the small feds could easily win in some of the larger ones and i dont think fred has any right to judge this. ;)

 

 

did i say i had a right  to  judge   , dont think so ,, but i can have  a view  and u cant stop me having one ,

[fred smyth]

it means that the number of birds that go up there are not belong to one fed the have there own sections which are like different feds in there own right and when the nipa get numbers like that its mostly national and opens mate correct me if im wrong mate but i think thats the way it works like the south have a few different feds but when there combined savaged birdage?

 

no your wrong the nipa have an open race every week all sections compete every week for open prizes  sometimes they have 2 race points and split in two  to give longer flyers a chance

[Ulsterlofts]

The NIPA has 8 sections that are put up together every week to race for the overall Open.

 

The only time they are not lib together is the first 3 yb races , that is when they go up in sections or combined sections, but most inland races in the old birds and yb you would have 20,000+ birds all up together except when they have their Nationals when there is a 20 bird limit.

 

Yours In Sport

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no your wrong the nipa have an open race every week all sections compete every week for open prizes  sometimes they have 2 race points and split in two  to give longer flyers a chance

you are a south road fed man are you?

 

[edwards]

The NIPA has 8 sections that are put up together every week to race for the overall Open.

 

The only time they are not lib together is the first 3 yb races , that is when they go up in sections or combined sections, but most inland races in the old birds and yb you would have 20,000+ birds all up together except when they have their Nationals when there is a 20 bird limit.

 

Yours In Sport

its open results not fed mate is that it?

 

 

[fred smyth]

you are a south road fed man are you?

 

no im not im from belfast.

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no im not im from belfast.

what section you fly into mate?

 

[fred smyth]

what section you fly into mate?

 

i said i dont fly in NIPA    ,,, i will be flying in ulster fed next year

[Guest gladdo]

yeah but i think when birds have results there shouldbe put birdage at end to clear up anything .... its only my thought as our club in dublin sends more birds than some feds etc .... mikey (dublin , ireland ... ) for instance yesterday i was 6th club out of 645 birds in which would have won alot of irish clubs that sending 200 birds etc ... just  a point !!! mikey

[fred smyth]

mikey thats all i was trying to say  not all first mean the same thing , i would rather bye birds from a man that was beating 600 birds a week than from a man beating less than 100 birds,,

[Ulsterlofts]

its open results not fed mate is that it?

 

 

there is no feds connected to the NIPA its 8 Sections that make up the NIPA into an overall OPen, hope this helps clear up any misunderstanding

 

Yours In Sport

 

 

[edwards]

yeah but i think when birds have results there shouldbe put birdage at end to clear up anything .... its only my thought as our club in dublin sends more birds than some feds etc .... mikey (dublin , ireland ... ) for instance yesterday i was 6th club out of 645 birds in which would have won alot of irish clubs that sending 200 birds etc ... just  a point !!! mikey

only 6 of our members sent mate and a member finisied 8th section and only 6o odd birds went out of the club all positions filled and a lot of clubs every were couldn fill on the day birdage means nothingf really looking at this :-/

 

[Turk]

get real these small clubs small federations are been killed off no new members ,no chance of joining bigger federations ,because some of these small clubs might hold some great fanciers ,that is why clubs break up federations split .and these so called little clubs federations please can the last man turn the light out .

then will the bigger clubs federations let them in NO CHANCE they might win everything.

 

 

 

[Guest JPH]

mikey thats all i was trying to say  not all first mean the same thing , i would rather bye birds from a man that was beating 600 birds a week than from a man beating less than 100 birds,,

dosent mean you are buying better birds. the man beating 100

 

birds could have the best in the world and the man beating 600 could have 6 fanciers sending 100 birds each and not a good one amongst them. Dont make sence :-/ :-/

 

 

[Guest JPH]

get real these small clubs small federations are been killed off no new members ,no chance of joining bigger federations ,because some of these small clubs might hold some great fanciers ,that is why clubs break up federations split .and these so called little clubs federations please can the last man turn the light out .

then will the bigger clubs federations let them in NO CHANCE they might win everything.

 

 

your spot on turk, i remeember a club with only a few members who did not send more than 60 to 100 birds per race and those members won the fed nearly everyweek ;)

 

 

[fred smyth]

get real these small clubs small federations are been killed off no new members ,no chance of joining bigger federations ,because some of these small clubs might hold some great fanciers ,that is why clubs break up federations split .and these so called little clubs federations please can the last man turn the light out .

then will the bigger clubs federations let them in NO CHANCE they might win everything.

 

 

 

well i dont think that happens over , and if it dose happen in uk  the people   that run the sport should have a look at that ,why should a man be pushed out just be cause hes winning ,

[Turk]

 

well i dont think that happens over , and if it dose happen in uk  the people   that run the sport should have a look at that ,why should a man be pushed out just be cause hes winning ,

 

pmsl

[greenlands]

mikey thats all i was trying to say  not all first mean the same thing , i would rather bye birds from a man that was beating 600 birds a week than from a man beating less than 100 birds,,

Don't agree with that statement,just because the birdage is low dosen't take it away from the pigeon,maybe if the 600 birds were flying in the same circumstances as the 100,the one that won from 100 entries would still win.

 

 

 

[fred smyth]

dosent mean you are buying better birds. the man beating 100

 

birds could have the best in the world and the man beating 600 could have 6 fanciers sending 100 birds each and not a good one amongst them. Dont make sence :-/ :-/

 

 

i just cant win with i jph no matter what i say

[Guest JPH]

Don't agree with that statement,just because the birdage is low dosen't take it away from the pigeon,maybe if the 600 birds were flying in the same circumstances as the 100,the one that won from 100 entries would still win.

 

 

yu are 100% correct lyndsay to many people obsessed with numbers and dont take into account the circumstances the birds fly in ;)

 

 

[Guest JPH]

sorry fred m8 you have put up some good posts but not put a lot of thought into this one im afraid. :-/ :-/