stock birds well being

[chrisbonnie]

bought some stock birds last week, i have to say, i feel a little bad for doing so, as im restricting an animal that can fly, from doing what he does, but ill have to pu that to the back of my mind for now

 

regarding their health and well being etc...

 

i have them seperatd from my other birds "obviously", but should they be able to see the other birds, will they get "jealous" by seeing the others flying out?

 

food, how much should they be fd seeing as they dont exercise?

 

and most importantly, when should they be paired up?

[REDCHEQHEN]

Its unfortunate that stock birds in most cases are 'prisoners'

 

As to pairing up - when do you want young birds?

[chrisbonnie]

Its unfortunate that stock birds in most cases are 'prisoners'

 

As to pairing up - when do you want young birds?

 

no idea my man, ive only got pigeons 4 months now, but decided investing in some half decent stock was the best thing to do in the long run

[flyingteessider]

I broke my stock they dont have to be prisoners my beast stock cock is an 06 and trains with my young birds he had never been flown out till i had got him in january imgoing to race him next season its a good feeling giving them a life

[REDCHEQHEN]

 

no idea my man, ive only got pigeons 4 months now, but decided investing in some half decent stock was the best thing to do in the long run

 

(dissappointed)(dissappointed)

I'm female

(dissappointed)(dissappointed)

 

Have you joined a club?

When do you get your rings?

 

Some people pair mid December for January youngsters - some a lot later for May bred youngsters - and the majority pair inbetween

 

you need a 'plan'

[flyingteessider]

redcheqhen is a clue of gender

[chrisbonnie]

 

(dissappointed)(dissappointed)

I'm female

(dissappointed)(dissappointed)

 

Have you joined a club?

When do you get your rings?

 

Some people pair mid December for January youngsters - some a lot later for May bred youngsters - and the majority pair inbetween

 

you need a 'plan'

 

sorry, no idea love (patronising or what  )

 

not in a club yet, so i suppose ill have to join one asap, so i cant get a loft number, and be available for rings etc...

 

the other things im interested in was tyhe fact they see the other birds, will they get jealous, or downbeat about it? and food, how much should they be eating, seeing as their on 24 hour lockdown?

[Guest bakes]

 

sorry, no idea love (patronising or what  )

 

not in a club yet, so i suppose ill have to join one asap, so i cant get a loft number, and be available for rings etc...

 

the other things im interested in was tyhe fact they see the other birds, will they get jealous, or downbeat about it? and food, how much should they be eating, seeing as their on 24 hour lockdown?

 

are you a member of the rpra mate its only 10pounds when you wont to buy rings send your membership card in with the piece of paper saying the amount of rings you wont and your check,money to pay for the rings then you will get an envolope with your rings and your membership card back just basically a pink bit off card with your member number and shows that you have paid for the years membership

all the best.

[Guest stb]

Its unfortunate that stock birds in most cases are 'prisoners'

 

As to pairing up - when do you want young birds?

any valuble stock birds that i have would never go out apart from aviary.  The sparrowhawks would be picking one of a day

 

 

[pjc]

They would love to have an aviary/flight they can come out into where they can sun themselves and have a bath etc. You can try and brake them to your loft but being inexperienced i'd breed some young from them first. If you are planning to maybe start racing with youngbirds next year then i'd join a club over the winter so that you can get rings in January and pair up in the spring.

The birds won't be bothered by seeing your other birds.

[Guest IB]

... they see the other birds, will they get jealous, or downbeat about it?

 

Any pigeon that I've had has always wanted outside with the others. I reckon yours will be the same. They will always be looking for a way out, and one careless moment, could be last you see of them. Would think it far easier all round to break them and let them fly out.

 

[Guest stb]

 

Any pigeon that I've had has always wanted outside with the others. I reckon yours will be the same. They will always be looking for a way out, and one careless moment, could be last you see of them. Would think it far easier all round to break them and let them fly out.

what happens if hes paid a right load of dosh for them and they dissapear, :-/

 

if there valuable keep them in  

 

 

[Beanz]

Its much better to keep them prisoner than to let the hawks or cats get them and then find out they are that golden pair everyone is looking for.

 

 

                                                       Paul

[Guest IB]

what happens if hes paid a right load of dosh for them and they dissapear, :-/

 

if there valuable keep them in  

 

Every money investment comes with its risks; pigeons are no different. Losing the bird is just one of those risks, your matings not breeding anything worthwhile is another.  If you are not comfortable with these risks, then keep your money in your pocket.

[chrisbonnie]

Its much better to keep them prisoner than to let the hawks or cats get them and then find out they are that golden pair everyone is looking for

 

Paul

 

you said it, when i got into pigeons 5 months ago, i got a few ybs from a friend, then i got 8 from louella, out of that 8, i now only have 2, two got spooked from a cat after a few days, another one got lost when he was very young in heavy rain(thats ok ,the guy that caught him in is now a friend of mine, very helpful!!), another got lost ona training run, one died with some sickness, and another got killed by a hawk(that actually upset me big time  )

 

so my new pigeon friend gave me the advice of, if i spend money, DONT LET THEM OUT!!

 

the aviary will be up and ready within the week, so im hoping they`ll be happy with that, its the best i can im afraid, they are 8-10 weeks old, so just too old and strong to be flying around, and expecting them to come back, id may as well burn my money

 

cheers for all the advice lads

 

regarding a club, my application is going in this saturday

 

 

[jimmy white]

bought some stock birds last week, i have to say, i feel a little bad for doing so, as im restricting an animal that can fly, from doing what he does, but ill have to pu that to the back of my mind for now

 

regarding their health and well being etc...

 

i have them seperatd from my other birds "obviously", but should they be able to see the other birds, will they get "jealous" by seeing the others flying out?

 

food, how much should they be fd seeing as they dont exercise?

 

and most importantly, when should they be paired up?

 

i have found that stock birds keep healthier, last longer if flying out, but if you need to keep them in , the worst thing usually is fat,, with no excercise they will get fat very easy, when breeding and moulting they will need proteins , but at any other times would feed avery light diet, with less proteins,

a simple thing to stretch their wings, at least a little  is to cut a round piece of ply, the same size as the base of your drinker, place on a pole in the ground of your aviary, as high as your aviary will allow, the then the drinker on this, the birds will have to fly up to the drinker, grip on to the side of the drinker, still flapping their wings while they drink, every time they drink they will at least stretch there wings each day, a few times , allways make sure they have fresh grit/minerals /pickstones, again place these , where they will have to stretch their wings to get at them, plenty baths will also help keep them in better condition as with some greens occasionally

[chrisbonnie]

 

i have found that stock birds keep healthier, last longer if flying out, but if you need to keep them in , the worst thing usually is fat,, with no excercise they will get fat very easy, when breeding and moulting they will need proteins , but at any other times would feed avery light diet, with less proteins,

a simple thing to stretch their wings, at least a little  is to cut a round piece of ply, the same size as the base of your drinker, place on a pole in the ground of your aviary, as high as your aviary will allow, the then the drinker on this, the birds will have to fly up to the drinker, grip on to the side of the drinker, still flapping their wings while they drink, every time they drink they will at least stretch there wings each day, a few times , allways make sure they have fresh grit/minerals /pickstones, again place these , where they will have to stretch their wings to get at them, plenty baths will also help keep them in better condition as with some greens occasionally

 

great idea, very smart thinking that, makes pure strenght, ill give that a crack, i appreciate the advice

 

 

[jimmy white]

thanks chrisbonnie even tying a cabbage or lettuce washed and sprinkled with a little salt [cabbage good for iron]  roots and all , even the earth lol, ,,,to the aviary wire, again making them  keep flapping their  wings to get at it

[Guest Owen]

My Stock birds are all in a large aviary. They look a picture of health. At the moment they are moulting at a fast rate which is a good sign of health. As has already been said, I give them my mineral mixture fresh every day and they bath about 3 times a week. I mix vegitable juice into their food and I give them geen food a couple of times a week.

Later on they will be on best feed barley until they are wanted for breeding, when I will strengthen the food up. During this period I do not treat the birds for anything. But they will have there swabs and droppings tested just before they are to breed. I recent years I also treat them for paratyphoid, by using a live vaccine.