help

[adam owen]

the council have told me to take my 18x6 loft down as its to big the only size im allowed is 8x6 up till know im pushing for 10x6 if i get the go ahead to have eather of thease sheds any idea how you could race old birds and ybs succesfully to it eg young old birds preff not flying natrual :-/ :-/

[Guest joshdonlan]

tell them where to go. theres more important things for them to do. probally some neighbour has complained.

[adam owen]

yes they have i cnt tell them too do 1 tho as they will evict me

[Guest IB]

You basically start from scratch and do what you should have done in the first place. (1) You ask for permission to keep pigeons on council property; (2) You apply for restrospective planning permission for the loft you've already built. (3) You make sure that all the neighbours that share a boundary with the ground the loft is on have no objection to it and the pigeons in it.

 

Good luck in this.

 

[p charlton]

easy use the 10/6 for the cocks and young use rabbit cages for stock and hens

[Guest]

the council have told me to take my 18x6 loft down as its to big the only size im allowed is 8x6 up till know im pushing for 10x6 if i get the go ahead to have eather of thease sheds any idea how you could race old birds and ybs succesfully to it eg young old birds preff not flying natrual :-/ :-/

 

if i remember correctly use 1/2 as a garden shed with tools etc in it

then when everything dies down whoes to know if its still used for tools etc

[BLACK W F]

well have 2 8x6  they nerver said you could only have one  

[Guest IB]

tell them where to go. theres more important things for them to do. probally some neighbour has complained.

 

Bad advice. His house missives probably contain a 'no animals' clause, without permission. If he hasn't got permission to keep animals on council property, he's broken the terms of lease. The council could go to court to have him evicted from his home. Nothing more important than keeping a roof over your family's head..

[adam owen]

sorry didnt say it is only the one shed if i did have two sheds at tha size then its only two foot shorter than what ive already got see they wont have it

[adam owen]

ib you are dead right thats what theyve said

[holmsidelofts]

the council have told me to take my 18x6 loft down as its to big the only size im allowed is 8x6 up till know im pushing for 10x6 if i get the go ahead to have eather of thease sheds any idea how you could race old birds and ybs succesfully to it eg young old birds preff not flying natrual :-/ :-/

 

Sorry to hear that mate, especially with a new loft thats only weeks old. If theres anything i can do to assist in anything you got my number give me a call.

 

Jas

[Guest]

up here was the same difficult to get permission

the decision was challenged at a council meeting and won

you can now get an 18x6 loft with permission

but 1 complaint is not enough to get it thrown out

the  argument of infringing on your human rights to participate in your chosen hobby was upheld

 

if you get to a council meeting and have your say it will cost you nothing

and they will not want to be on record as denying permission without good grounds

incase you take it further

 

good luck

dave

[adam owen]

cheers jason im gutted i can take the loft to my nans and race but wud rather have them in my own garden ect my nan wont have the house for ever eather so id rather push for it know

[Guest tom123]

adam

get hold of glyn picton hes fought many a case with councils and ask his advise

and he may be able to point you in the right direction

 

[holmsidelofts]

cheers jason im gutted i can take the loft to my nans and race but wud rather have them in my own garden ect my nan wont have the house for ever eather so id rather push for it know

 

that was going to be my next suggestion, the other would be an allotment, do you have an outhouse attached to your house you can convert that to a stock loft with no issues. Let me know if you need a hand with anything mate.

 

jas

[DOVEScot]

tell them where to go. theres more important things for them to do. probally some neighbour has complained.

 

I wish we could I tried that with a pergola I built and thought the council would ignore my neighbours complaints solely on the fact she did not like the look of it. The inspector who is in favour of us and realises it is trivial told me basically if I ignored the complaint they would serve me with a notice giving me 4 weeks to comply and then they would give me another four weeks to remove the structure and if not they would fine me £250, hire a company to remove it along with police involvement if need be and I would be footed the bill for it all. So I am applying for planning permission which I think I will win :-/

[Ian McKay]

up here was the same difficult to get permission

the decision was challenged at a council meeting and won

you can now get an 18x6 loft with permission

but 1 complaint is not enough to get it thrown out

the  argument of infringing on your human rights to participate in your chosen hobby was upheld

 

if you get to a council meeting and have your say it will cost you nothing

and they will not want to be on record as denying permission without good grounds

incase you take it further

 

good luck

dave

 

Davy you forgot to say the guy fought the council for 6yrs before they abandoned the case

 

 

[Guest]

 

Davy you forgot to say the guy fought the council for 6yrs before they abandoned the case

 

 

dont think were speaking about the same case ian

was a member of my club that was involved

 

[Ian McKay]

 

dont think were speaking about the same case ian

was a member of my club that was involved

 

No davie only ever been one pigeon fought the council and won

[Taylorsloft]

 

Davy you forgot to say the guy fought the council for 6yrs before they abandoned the case

 

 

good old dennis taylor   ;)

 

RIP mate  :'(

[Ian McKay]

 

good old dennis taylor   ;)

 

RIP mate  :'(

 

How correct you are Steve

 

How quickly some forget

[Guest]

 

No davie only ever been one pigeon fought the council and won

 

just off the phone to george him and sandy went in front of the council and got the size of a loft increased from

8x6 to 18x6 or 16x6

[Ian McKay]

 

just off the phone to george him and sandy went in front of the council and got the size of a loft increased from

8x6 to 18x6 or 16x6

 

I have original document from the case to prove it.

 

Not word of mouth

 

End of discussion

[blackswan]

d j w is talking about jock leadbetter i think ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

 

I have original document from the case to prove it.

 

Not word of mouth

 

End of discussion

   (excuse me )

you dont know everything then

they DID go infront of the council after asking the fed for backing and not getting it

2002 or 2003 george says hes got documents to prove it aswell

so mr taylor was not the only one to go infront of the council